bi0boy
Power User
Royal I, innit
Large estate car, powerful engine, well made with lots of toys, must be easy and relaxing to drive.
Ford Mondeo Estate 1.5 EcoBoost Titanium
HTH
Diesel or Petrol?
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Ford Mondeo Estate 1.5 EcoBoost Titanium
HTH
Bahnhof Strasse
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Ford Mondeo Estate 1.5 EcoBoost Titanium
HTH
Her (wife-beating, scumcunt) dad has a Mondeo estate, as a result she's off Fords.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
What are her requirements then? You've only said so far "diesel because I like Audi A6s". Not much to go on is it.
Cars aren't always totally rational though. My last few motors have been bought with pure practicality in mind and whilst they've done the job, driving some nice can be fun (assuming you don't mostly do town driving)
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Ford Mondeo Estate 1.5 EcoBoost Titanium
HTH
That sounds grim.
Bahnhof Strasse
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UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
They don't look too bad:
Aston Martin style grill.
Still, wife-beater motors.
I'd happily drive a Mondeo, my work has one and it's pleasant enough. It's just a rather big car for a 1.5l engine!
Bahnhof Strasse
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Yes, I would imagine that it would wear out rather quickly hauling that amount of car around, especially with the kids and all their crap in the back.
bi0boy
Power User
Have you driven one? Ford's new petrol turbos are awesome. They even do the Mondeo with 1.0L version.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Fair enough, I'm happy to stand corrected. I can't afford to drive new cars anyway. 0 to 60 in 11 seconds isn't awful, but it's not exciting either.
Bahnhof Strasse
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Is that the Mondeo? That is very slow. The one she wants is 5.3 seconds to 60. Safer overtaking etc.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Yes. In line with my Berlingo. But that's 13 years old and cost me a grand.
If I had money for a new car I'd certainly want better.
hash tag
Lighting the blue touch paper
Dpf's are prone to early failure if used for lots of short journeys. In days of old, diesals had glow plugs which you had to warm up before being able to start the engine.
Me, committed petrol head.
Puddy_Tat
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don't they now?
mine does - although i've had it 20 years...
and having said that, when i had a loan car a couple of years ago - which was the first petrol car i'd driven since i got current car - my first question was 'where's the choke?' :facepaw:
not-bono-ever
meh
Glow plugs stop you from killing the battery by relentless cranking, specially on fucked old diesels in the cold. DPF need caning to clean them out - most people chug around the city at 15mph for years and shit their pants when presented with a 4 fig bill for a new DPF. A 15 minute motorway run every month or two starts the cleaning process on modern particulate filters
dessiato
4 years and I still cry sometimes
About five years ago a friend of mine (who has a PhD in mechanical engineering so probably knew what he was talking about) said he would not buy a diesel car. His argument was that not only are they more expensive to buy, but they need more maintenance (oil and filters need changing at least twice a year) than a petrol doing similar mileage. He also said that they are more polluting in terms of particulates and soot, if not through other pollutants. In his opinion it was better to buy a well looked after, if slightly older, petrol car as this would be cheaper all round.
mauvais
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Yep, although it can be very pernickety about when it carries it out.
DPFs aren't the only problem though. Things like EGR valves, swirl flaps etc add extra complication to diesels. So does the simple presence of a turbo. More big ticket items to fail.
However you have to compare like for like, and as you can see, lots of petrols are now turbocharged (and have increasingly complicated pollution control systems) so you may not be escaping much.
I think diesel is going to become more of a problem, but the battle's not over. When pushed they might find ways to clean it up some more, as they have in this phase with AdBlue. If I had to bet though I'd bet against it being disincentived sooner rather than later.
Bahnhof Strasse
Let's av ya fuckin' dancin'!
So, it's narrowed down to an A6 3ltr bi-turbo diesel, or an S6 4ltr petrol - what would be best for a middle-aged midget woman to run the kids to school in and take the dog for a walk with?
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Many years ago a motor company was asked to make a multi-fuel engine for a British tank. They failed to deliver ontime so a dedicated engine was used. However many diesels have the capacity to run on vegetable oil or chip fat rather than neat diesel. Something to be said for that, come the revolution!
weltweit
Well-Known Member
If she really is a midget woman, will she be able to reach the pedals?
bi0boy
Power User
Sounds like you're an Audi Q7 family tbh.
Bahnhof Strasse
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5 foot nothing, so can reach the pedals.
Bahnhof Strasse
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bi0boy
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Bahnhof Strasse
Let's av ya fuckin' dancin'!
not-bono-ever
meh
One unexpected issue has plagued a mate with a D5 v70 - rough running & going into limp mode at high speed.
After about six months of trying to find the fault, turns out to be the pressurised engine mounts that take a feed from the turbo system and pump up the mounts to alleviate the vibration inherent in a diesel setup were perished and leaking at high revs ....bet you didn't know about that.....
So although the derv in its simplest form is almost caveman like, the other gubbins that go along with it are where you will have problems
After about six months of trying to find the fault, turns out to be the pressurised engine mounts that take a feed from the turbo system and pump up the mounts to alleviate the vibration inherent in a diesel setup were perished and leaking at high revs ....bet you didn't know about that.....
So although the derv in its simplest form is almost caveman like, the other gubbins that go along with it are where you will have problems
mauvais
on reddit or something
Indeed! Never heard of such a thing.
