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Did we ever make it to the moon?

phildwyer said:
Yes, as a matter of fact they did. Pennsylvania was the first territory in the world to enforce religious toleration by law.
Question: How long did it last in actuality?
Once again, if you have any evidence that PA imprisoned Quakers, post it up. Otherwise everyone will see that you are once again shooting your mouth off about subjects on which you are completely and utterly ignorant. And this time you are caught in the act. You might as well admit it.
Projection again, phil? :D
I could go into the series of issues on which you have "shot your mouth off about subjects on which you are totally and utterly ignorant", but I don't wish to humiliate you.
I will, however, post up evidence just as soon as I've unearthed some correspondence that mentions sources (until then you'll just have to stew). Unlike you (remember the Masons, phil? Remember the pathetic accusations you were reduced to making when your "argument" was exposed as balder than Yul Brynner? :p ) I don't rely on websites for fuel. :)
 
Lisa Ying said:
This question never even crossed my mind before I saw a documentary some time ago, stating that back then we didn't have the technology to land on the moon. I never used to listen to the thories about the astronauts' shadows being in the wrong angle, flags flying without wind or the absence of stars behind them... But the documentary really amde me believe they actually were unable to land thre at all. It also said all the times they tried to test the landing equipement on earth it failed miserably. i wonder how many people actually DON'T believe in man being on the moon.
who cares if they did or not the asperation of flight and travel has been one of the defining things for the hwhole of humanites civiliseation for one reason or another the fact we are still doing so should be commened and we know that sooner or later it will not only be confined to terrestial exploreation either...
 
ViolentPanda said:
Question: How long did it last in actuality?

Until the present day. You will not find anywhere in the world more religiously tolerant, in both principle and practice, than Pennsylvania. Religious tolerance was its original raison d'etre. They even tolerated the shamanistic practices of the Indians.

Now it is true that, in the seventeenth end eighteenth centuries there were lots of Anglicans there who thought this toleration was a very bad thing, and who campaigned against the ruling Quakers to abolish it, but they failed. Even they were tolerated however.
 
Lisa Ying said:
This question never even crossed my mind before I saw a documentary some time ago, stating that back then we didn't have the technology to land on the moon. I never used to listen to the thories about the astronauts' shadows being in the wrong angle, flags flying without wind or the absence of stars behind them... But the documentary really amde me believe they actually were unable to land thre at all. It also said all the times they tried to test the landing equipement on earth it failed miserably. i wonder how many people actually DON'T believe in man being on the moon.
Perhaps you should try and watch this documentary as well.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/thinkfilm/intheshadowofthemoon/
 
So have a huge conspricy at the height of the cold war to fool the entire world .Or actually go to the moon.Which do you think is easier?
 
Detroit City said:
its a load of bollocks. there were thousands of people involved in the program and if it really was a hoax someone would have revealed in on their death bed.

True, not to mention the fact that (as Buzz Aldrin pointed out) the Russians never made any suggestions that the American landings had been faked despite the fact that they were the Americans' rivals and technically competent enough to spot any inconsistencies in the footage (which was beamed around the world).

Had there been any jiggery-pokery, they would surely have spotted it and made a fuss about it.
 
Meltingpot said:
True, not to mention the fact that (as Buzz Aldrin pointed out) the Russians never made any suggestions that the American landings had been faked despite the fact that they were the Americans' rivals and technically competent enough to spot any inconsistencies in the footage (which was beamed around the world).

They also had satellites, telescopes, etc, and probably would have spotted it if no mission actually went.
 
One of the most remarkable things about the whole US space program was how young many of the engineers were and how simple the backgrounds.
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
They also had satellites, telescopes, etc, and probably would have spotted it if no mission actually went.

Actually, it's impossible to see the landing sites from earth - we don't have powerful enough telescopes and the atmosphere gets in the way.

Anyway, the facts behind the apollo programme and how it would be impossible to fake with the fidelity seen in the photos, samples, instrument readings etc. - are all available to anyone with an internet connection, google and a science GCSE. I won't waste time spelling it out unless the OP shows a willingness to learn.
 
Crispy said:
Actually, it's impossible to see the landing sites from earth - we don't have powerful enough telescopes and the atmosphere gets in the way..

No, but they could follow the path of the moon mission through space.
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
No, but they could follow the path of the moon mission through space.
True, with radar etc.

Thing is, the rocket they built was capable of going, but they could have just sent an empty capsule. It's the landings themselves that are hard to see.
 
Crispy said:
True, with radar etc.

Thing is, the rocket they built was capable of going, but they could have just sent an empty capsule. It's the landings themselves that are hard to see.

If they're going to send a rocket with three men in it all the way to the moon, why not land once you get there?
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
If they're going to send a rocket with three men in it all the way to the moon, why not land once you get there?
doesn't even have to have the men in it really - you could decouple the command module from the rest of the stack, and send the lunar module and earth depature stage off round the moon, giving a similar radar track. It's the landings themselves that are definite
 
they did land on the moon but there was a coverup

you see the moon is actually made of cheese and as they fired the rockets to slow the descent they unfortunately turned their landing site into fondue trapping the lunar module
 
Crispy said:
doesn't even have to have the men in it really - you could decouple the command module from the rest of the stack, and send the lunar module and earth depature stage off round the moon, giving a similar radar track. It's the landings themselves that are definite

Russians following the thing on radar would see the command module detaching, then coming back to earth on the fake 'return'.
 
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N_igma said:
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Neil Armstrong actually sent a message back from the moon that was quite similar to this: one of his air tubes had detached, and he was suffering from hypoxia.
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
Neil Armstrong actually sent a message back from the moon that was quite similar to this: one of his air tubes had detached, and he was suffering from hypoxia.
was that when he uttered this famous speech "one small step back for the USSR, one giant leap ahead for the US?"
 
I saw a documentary about this where they showed satellite photos of some secret US airbase. They pointed out that some of the aircraft hangars looked SUSPCLY LIEK FILM STUDIOEZ. They looked even more like aircraft hangars to me, but what do I know? I'm a sheeple (sherson?).
 
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moonlanding05.jpg

http://stuffucanuse.com/fake_moon_landings/moon_landings.htm
 
Hi-ASL said:
They mark the directions in which the shadows are falling. A dead giveaway, of course.
well it's obviously fake, that one arrow is pointing to the rodent's genitalia :D
 
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