Did Israel hit Syrian Nuclear reactor?

[Grandma Death]

Quite alot of talk about my veracity in this forum and yet noone has proven me wrong, about naything.

Well you were proven wrong on the alleged confession of the ISM to doctoring photos of Rachel Corrie. Would you like some more examples?

 

[TAE]

TAE: "S. Bronx, NY." What do you mean about checking boxes?

Well, isn't that where you are from?

 

[MikeMcc]

Nino: "Is it a requirement for soemone to have gone to Israel in order to believe soemthing?" Of course not but neither can a person then definatively offer ther a statement one way or another.

"Did I hope to change Nino's mind?" Of course not. I would not even engage yo were it for the thought that soemwhere out there in the ther there is an objective person or two who might one day happen upon this genera hate fest and find themself curious about what is really going on in that part of the world (as opposed to the propaganda being floated here).

Mike: "No containment." Perhaps you missed the sentence about it not being compelted, having only beein in the preliminary stages. The idea is to get it before it can bite.

One need only consider how quickly Assad got the debris removed. He did so in a phenomenal amount of time. To do so means that he did not want any scrutiny at all. Seems like it fits to me even if I did not have faith in my govt.

Sleater: "US Military paper on it, so Israel DOES have it." Um, the guy is an MD with pilot rating (non-combat). He is not an analyst. He is not an NBC expert. He is not a gropoliticist and neither does his views mean squat. Read the disclaimer and then read his into. His sources were non-Intel. He is just hitting the Net, drawing his own conclusions.

Having been to both US and Israeli military colleges I can tell you that briefs mean absolutely nothing. They are not commissioned papers. Anyone can submit one for publication and in the end papers like this just gather dust.

He says that France repaid Israel with materials. That is a lie. I can tell you that straight off. Perhaps he did not mean to lie anmd simply offered conjecture but he dsid not leave room for thought. He made a definative statement and one that is totally incorrect.

"France constructed..." Again, lie.That one is easy to prove. Anyone interested, simply look it up. The initial construction is totally unclassified.

"Israel used the nuclear issue as a bargaining chip over the heads of the US to obtain continued arms sales." Now here is where I begint o doubt that this person is even associated with the US Military. Fact is, Israel did not receive ANY arms from the US until after 1961. This came to fruition after Israel agreed to allow a US team to inspect Dimona with unfettered access.

The US team signed off on a seal of good conduct and the US opend the stockhouses on a limited deal. It was pretty much a one time offering though and the next arms deal did not take place until just short of the 67 War. It only happened then, under LBJ, because the US was terrified of the USSR gaining regional supremacy, as it seemd posied to do.
"Israel deployed nukes in the 73 War." I think it is clear that the man is a fraud. No US Military man would make a definiative assertion like this. If I really cared i sould spend alot of money to call the States on that number listed to ascertain the validity of the paper. As it is, I would not spend 10 minutes of my time, let alone 10 US dollars on the call.

I will send off an email or two though and see if it sates my curiosity. Having seen umpteenth papers on similar issues I have to say that I have NEVER seen something definative on an issue not even touched upon by his govt. It is just ludicrous.The definiative statements combined with total inaccuracy makwes me really doubt its veracity.

Finally, I have never seen a US (or other) military paper with a religious heading /title.

But theres no sign of ANY debris in the 'after' photo, not even traces of foundations. A massive concrete containment building would need serious ground preperation. What also happened to the 'structure' in the first photo. It really looks like the IDF got taken in by a dummy structure. No one gets rid of that much material in one month, to do so would require phenomenenal amount of equipment. Yet no issue was made about that.

 

[rachamim18]

TAE: "No mention of alleged." Well I certainly should go back and edit that because it might seem to my govt. that I am making that illegalclaim. Gee, thanks for pointing thatone out. Get back to me if you find anything wrong with my posts anywhere else as well.

Usually, I have capitalised the word "ALLEGEDLY" just so to avoid that little issue but people can think what they will.

TAE: No, I am from Bat Yam, Israel. I have a flat in the Bronx for at least another 8 months but that is neither here nor there. I happen to live currently on Mindanao in the Philippines.

Mike: you cannot really tell from satellite images that have not been classified. It is not like Google Earth. Israel does not commit to overflying a contentious border without a very good reason, especially at such a delicate time (PA PEace Process and the US trying to maintain stamin with its deployments and being seen as a ally of Israel,etc).

As for the time frame, I happen to be a retired tunnel worker, heavy excavation,etc. and we have done much more in much less time. We rebuilt two of the WTC towers and ALL related infrastructure in less than 4 years and with 0 injuries so alot is possible if things are managed the right way.

Syria is under the gun in many ways and cannot afford to be caught with their pants down.

 

[MikeMcc]

TAE: "No mention of alleged." Well I certainly should go back and edit that because it might seem to my govt. that I am making that illegalclaim. Gee, thanks for pointing thatone out. Get back to me if you find anything wrong with my posts anywhere else as well.

Usually, I have capitalised the word "ALLEGEDLY" just so to avoid that little issue but people can think what they will.

TAE: No, I am from Bat Yam, Israel. I have a flat in the Bronx for at least another 8 months but that is neither here nor there. I happen to live currently on Mindanao in the Philippines.

Mike: you cannot really tell from satellite images that have not been classified. It is not like Google Earth. Israel does not commit to overflying a contentious border without a very good reason, especially at such a delicate time (PA PEace Process and the US trying to maintain stamin with its deployments and being seen as a ally of Israel,etc).

As for the time frame, I happen to be a retired tunnel worker, heavy excavation,etc. and we have done much more in much less time. We rebuilt two of the WTC towers and ALL related infrastructure in less than 4 years and with 0 injuries so alot is possible if things are managed the right way.

Syria is under the gun in many ways and cannot afford to be caught with their pants down.

Why can't you just admit that it looks like they fucked up? I too worked on a major installation built from scratch that required a containment structure (a synchrotron, rather than reactor). I can catagorically state that the missing building in that photo wasn't a reactor, not even a part built one. As I said, there is absolutely no trace of foundations on that photo. Even if it was bedrock on the surface there for it to be built on there would still be a need for foundation work.

I'm not stating that the Syrians may or may not have a nuclear program. Given the tensions in the area at the moment I think they would be daft if they didn't.

 

[TAE]

TAE: "No mention of alleged." Well I certainly should go back and edit that because it might seem to my govt. that I am making that illegalclaim. Gee, thanks for pointing thatone out. Get back to me if you find anything wrong with my posts anywhere else as well.

So that was indeed your post then? And why did you have a go at someone for not understanding 'alleged' when you did not even use the word 'alleged'. In that post you merely state that Israel has tested nukes.

 

[rachamim18]

Mike: Thing is Mike, I believe thewy did not. Working in heavy construction, or having worked in it, I know it is completely possible that all debris was remnoved or buried. On a union site in NYC we could do it so imagine being railroaded by Syrian military officials?


"Foundations." Foundations can be backfilled quite easily, apply more soil, regrade and voila!





TAE: "Rachamim's post?" To be honest, I am assuming it is mine. I mean, it is my name, I ALWAYS post under my own name excepting illict chemistry sites and I no longer post on those, and it is a board revolving around Israel. I do not remember it but for the sake of argument I assume it is me. I did try of course to review that post but the url does not work. I really do not have the motivation to go back and find it otherwise.


I doubt though that I would have posted without the "alleged" because regardless of my personal feelings, until this past June doing so would have possibly earned me a nice prison term and unfavourable discharge from the army. I suppose that if they wanted, they could go back and pin soemthing on me for posting that apparently while still in uniform but imagine such an issue brings unwanted publicity,etc.

At this point I am free to say what I feel as long as I do not claim to do in the name of my govt. but to be honest, I am not certain they exist.

It is reported that we tested them on an Indian Ocean isaldn belonging to S. Africa in the early 60s, that when the US team inspected us we used false fronted tech boards and other fabuous claims - but they cannot explain away the absence of readings anywhere. It is reprted that some French Intel elements assited us with smuggling componenets ot of France, that a US Jew owned a company in Pennsylvania and unwittingly helped us with water,etc. But who can say?

I would hope that the belief we have them deters some of our more persistent enemies but in the end many of those opponenets believe they will go ot Paradise anyway so it is iffy at best.