Bob_the_lost
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They are the ones that really confuse me, i can understand the urge to eat continuously, but why the hell do thier carers keep feeding them that much?Firky said:
Did anyone watch half ton man last night C4 9pm
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Bob_the_lost said:
I may be wrong but it seemed to be some kind of control thing going on there....feeling needed and helpin to keep someone in that state of neediness...kinda like those people who make/keep people ill.
Hope that makes sense.
spanglechick
High Empress of Dressing Up
my ex used to sabotage any diets i tried and enable my overeating, because he wanted me to be unattractive so i wouldn't leave him. (His issue - i wasn't going to)...Firky said:
mentalchik
"I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit."
Firky said:
And would you tell an anorexic to 'stop whinging and eat' ?
Seems to me that we have a huge amount of trouble seeing compulsive over eating as a mental problem but have no trouble sympathising with people that starve themselves........
I wonder if it's anything to do with the fact that as a society we appear to worship the 'thin and beautiful' !
tendril said:
Ok, so say an alcoholic (an everyone else) needed a pint of Stella a day to live*. Would that be an excuse for everyone to be alcoholics....? Nope. The majority of the morbidly obese people shown seemed to have no interest in cutting down their intake. From what I saw they had a "comfatable" lifestyle in which their partners did everything for them and they did nothing. Why would they want to change...?
*Which was what the situation was in the Middle Ages because of a dodgy water supply. Beer/Wine was much better for you...
Louloubelle
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My understanding of eating disorders is that they seldom just affect one person
For example anorexia is usually treated using family therapy as the anorexic is just the part of the family that is expressig a family problem
This film showed how the man's eating disorder was an issue for both him and his wife
There was obviously something going on for her that she had married a morbidly obsese man who couldn't consumate the marriage and then happily colluded with feeding him to an early grave
this is very ofern an issue for parnters of agraphiobic people, many of whom have an unconscious interest in controling their partner and keeping them at home
For example anorexia is usually treated using family therapy as the anorexic is just the part of the family that is expressig a family problem
This film showed how the man's eating disorder was an issue for both him and his wife
There was obviously something going on for her that she had married a morbidly obsese man who couldn't consumate the marriage and then happily colluded with feeding him to an early grave
this is very ofern an issue for parnters of agraphiobic people, many of whom have an unconscious interest in controling their partner and keeping them at home
mentalchik
"I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit."
jæd said:
Yes but these people are more than 'just a bit ' overweight, they are eating themselves to death !
Why is it so difficult to accept that this is not just about 'laziness' and that their whole attitude and habits related to food have become distorted ?
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
Way i see it, once you've broken the 30 stone mark something is very wrong. If it's all in the head or due to biochemistry it's past time to get professional help.mentalchik said:
Or that guy with the spangly top at least.
mentalchik
"I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit."
Ok !
Still think it can be a little more complicated than that though, have you ever had a probelm with eating ?
When emotional issues and food get intertwined in your head it ain't always as simple as eating less etc !
Still think it can be a little more complicated than that though, have you ever had a probelm with eating ?
When emotional issues and food get intertwined in your head it ain't always as simple as eating less etc !
Agent Sparrow
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Tbf a lot of people do have that attitude towards anorexics, though now I agree it's probably more see it as an illness compared to binge eating disorder. But still, the attitudes around all eating disorders can be shoking. I've heard a colleague in mental health go on about how she can't understand anorexics and just wants to shake them and force them to eat - in the past I've had eating problems/disorders for 7 years and frankly I was totally shocked by her attitude (I also didn't really feel like telling her anything about my history at that point eithermentalchik said:
).I don't really think society as a whole is very understanding of any sort of addiction problem as they're seen as signs of "weakness", but I do think that food and "dieting" addictions are somehow seen as even more incomprohensible, probably because we all eat food and most of us escape disorder. I also sometimes wonder if there's an element of projection at times, that eating disordered people are the amplification of our own minor neurosis about food (very few of us have a totally "normal" relationship with food I guess). But as in getting over both extremes of eating disorder, it is true that you can't escape food, it's everywhere and you have to consume it everyday.
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