Did anyone see Heather Mills on GMTV this morning?
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well McCartney is an old man now...foo said:
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
I think it's essentially that she has been know to be economical with the truth her own father and mother have at times said her versions of events are utter fantasy, that she played with the media fire made claims about being the victim of domestic abuse which never actually happened has gone out of her way to promote herself by attacking her ex husband and then declared that some where in the region of 80 million for 4 years of marrage (after she has contributed nothing to the releationship of financial note) was not a reasonable amount.
I think it's a combination of her very naked greed which as we all know in the media is sexy in a man but evil in women, thus go the sterotypes. That there was obviously a very concentraited hate and smeer campagin which rather than ignoring and saying well it's all shit and i won't fall into this trap she dove head first into and tried to play and got caught out continually lying about such in consiquential things...
So the veneration comes down to sexism in the media plus her own actions have been seen to be less than open honest or with any integrity.
Added to which it appears none of macca's children liked her so of course it may well be there was an ocestrated campagin by one or more of them to make her appear in a certain light.
there does seem to be a standard being held up however where becuase macca was in the beatles he can do no wrong .... which of course may also be far from the truth.
she hasn't helped hereself though byu continuing to court publicity and also by her apperently cynical media manipulation or the insincerity of everything she seems to lay her hands to...
and then there's the identity theift issue...
there is also a heather mills who works as a jornolist for private eye who claims that HMM passed herself off as HM fo over a year.. no other details other than that accusation really...
She's planning to sue everyone who has made alligations against her however, as soon as the divorce is settled so i'd imagine it'll all become only too apparent why she's disliked rightly or wrongly in the coming months...
I think it's a combination of her very naked greed which as we all know in the media is sexy in a man but evil in women, thus go the sterotypes. That there was obviously a very concentraited hate and smeer campagin which rather than ignoring and saying well it's all shit and i won't fall into this trap she dove head first into and tried to play and got caught out continually lying about such in consiquential things...
So the veneration comes down to sexism in the media plus her own actions have been seen to be less than open honest or with any integrity.
Added to which it appears none of macca's children liked her so of course it may well be there was an ocestrated campagin by one or more of them to make her appear in a certain light.
there does seem to be a standard being held up however where becuase macca was in the beatles he can do no wrong .... which of course may also be far from the truth.
she hasn't helped hereself though byu continuing to court publicity and also by her apperently cynical media manipulation or the insincerity of everything she seems to lay her hands to...
and then there's the identity theift issue...
there is also a heather mills who works as a jornolist for private eye who claims that HMM passed herself off as HM fo over a year.. no other details other than that accusation really...
She's planning to sue everyone who has made alligations against her however, as soon as the divorce is settled so i'd imagine it'll all become only too apparent why she's disliked rightly or wrongly in the coming months...
and he's always had a good head on his shoulders. which leaves me baffled as to why he married that wench in the first placefoo said:
paulhackett
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Kanda said:... and look what the press done to Diana
That's what she was saying this morning.. she is in the same sit. as the McCanns and Diana. Daily Express heaven..
sleaterkinney
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Seriously, what's that got to do with anything?. And she is right the treatment of her and the McCanns is disgusting.Melinda said:
To be fair, years ago my old boss took one look at the-then unknown Mrs McCartney and blurted out that he knew her- alleging immediately that she was a total nutter fantasist and a high class escort.
Now we all took this with a hefty pinch of salt at the time - our boss being an ex-high profile adman with a number of wonderfully tall tales - but with the gift of hindsight, he seems to have been entirely on the money. A very unpleasant, desperate fantasist by all accounts, who seems to have rubbed the wrong way by making up a life history that they must have quickly discovered to be fake.
Now we all took this with a hefty pinch of salt at the time - our boss being an ex-high profile adman with a number of wonderfully tall tales - but with the gift of hindsight, he seems to have been entirely on the money. A very unpleasant, desperate fantasist by all accounts, who seems to have rubbed the wrong way by making up a life history that they must have quickly discovered to be fake.
Paul Russell
Psychogeographer
GarfieldLeChat said:
She also didn't help herself by blaming the press for the breakup of her marriage IIRC.
They had it in for her previous to that, so saying that her marriage break-up was due "media intrusion" rather than Macca and Mills realising they didn't get on was a red rag vs bull scenario.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
the sad thng is that this if true looks like it may well have beena defense mechanism on her part to cover up her roots after her fatehr went to jail and she was abandoned and had very difficult upbringing. sadly this seems to have marked her for lifetarannau said:
sleaterkinney
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And what has that got to do with you?. Do you not think there are worse things in the world to get bothered about?. Seriously?. ffs.Melinda said:
sleaterkinney
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Whatever.Melinda said:
bouncer_the_dog
Well-Known Member
Yes.. like getting bothered about people who get bothered about Heather Mills McCartney (the annoying old trout)
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
It was certainly very bizarre... made me chuckle.
Louloubelle
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I heard that she also pretends to be an investigative journalist, going so far as sending print outs of the real journalist's work and pretending it's hers
there is an investigative journalist called Heather Mills but it's no her
there is an investigative journalist called Heather Mills but it's no her
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
I suppose the simplified version is that she is perceived by many as a whore who lied and deceived in order to take full advantage of a man who was still grieving for his dead wife.Kanda said:So basically fuck all reason but people like to be cunts. Thought so
pinkmonkey
2.4 hour party person
I don't think fantasists are ever popular - article about her biography from The Times.
In 1995 she wrote her autobiography, Out on a Limb, which would be hailed a bestseller. (It was republished in America in 2002 as A Single Step.) She recalled a childhood so bereft of love that she ran away from home at 13, joined a travelling fair and ended up sleeping under the arches at Waterloo station. Much of this was pure fantasy.
Heather was born on January 12, 1968, and grew up in Washington, Tyne and Wear, the middle child of Mark and Beatrice Mills. By Heather's account, her parents' marriage was not made in heaven. Mark Mills, a former army officer, was a feckless, social-climbing wife-beater who was incapable of showing affection towards his children, and dragged his family from place to place as his fortunes waxed and waned. She described an incident, while at primary school aged seven, when she and her friend Margaret Amble were "kidnapped" by the local swimming teacher. He was meant to take them to a swimming gala in Darlington but instead held them in his flat for three days. Heather said he only fondled her but took Margaret into his bedroom each night. Her former friend, Margaret, says this is a wildly exaggerated account, but she cannot talk any more about it, as she is about to sue Heather for breach of privacy. Her solicitor, Graham Atkins, confirmed a suit is pending.
When Heather was nine, her mother ran off with an actor, Charles Stapley, leaving her children in the care of their father. Beatrice had met Stapley when he was appearing at the Theatre Royal, Newcastle, and they set up home together in Clapham, south London. Heather assumed many of her mother's household duties. A few years later, Mark Mills was sent to prison for 18 months for fraud. Heather claimed that this happened when she was 13 and that her brother, Shane, was sent to stay with his grandmother in Brighton while she and her sister, Fiona, moved into the flat in Clapham her mother shared with Stapley. Friction soon followed. Heather admits she was difficult, and she ran away from home a few weeks before her 14th birthday. She wrote that she found refuge with a travelling fair, where she was given a "tiny caravan" and a job making tea and cleaning the fairground equipment. "I'd open tins of hot dogs, set up the sugar in the candyfloss machines, get apples out of the crates and coat them with toffee. I was a gofer, but I didn't mind... To me, living on the fair was like being born again."
Her idyll apparently came to an end after six months, when she found her best friend, Peter, dead in his caravan with a hypodermic needle in his arm. "Every instinct in my body was telling me to run..." she said. She claims she ended up sleeping in a box under the arches at Waterloo station for four months, washing in the station toilets, eating at soup kitchens or stealing food from supermarkets. She then moved in with friends who had a flat over an off-licence near her mother's flat. According to Heather's timetable of events, this would have been near the end of 1982. But school records indicate she and her sister stayed at Usworth comprehensive in Tyne and Wear until April 1983, when presumably her father was sent to prison. They were then enrolled at Hydeburn comprehensive in Clapham on June 6, 1983. Heather remained at Hydeburn until July 2, 1984, when she left, aged 16. She was, in fact, enrolled at school the whole time she was meant to have run away from home.
The next character to appear in her narrative, under the pseudonym of Mr Penrose, was the owner of a jewellery shop in Clapham where Heather said she got a Saturday job. Mr Penrose was in reality Jim Guy, the owner of Penrose Jewellers. "Everything she wrote about me was lies," said Guy. "I never gave her a job; she just hung around and made tea. She told me her father was dead. The only thing that was true was she nicked stuff from the shop." Heather admitted in her book stealing a roll of gold chains from him and selling it to buy a moped. When Guy reported the theft, she confessed, was taken to court and put on probation.
*snip*
Karmal encouraged her to try her hand at modelling and shot her first portfolio of pictures. When she complained she was not getting enough work, he set her up with her own agency, Excel Management, in Marylebone. In her book, Heather said the agency was a great success and was later sold to a rival agency. Karmal says it collapsed and he used the name for a shell company to set up a nightclub in Luton. "I began to realise," he said, "that she had difficulty telling the truth. She told me a lot about her past that turned out to be embellished or even fantasy; she told me so many fibs that if she'd said it was raining I'd have checked."
*snip*
The publication of Out on a Limb in June 1995 marked Heather's emergence as a fully fledged celebrity as well as a tireless charity worker. She was invited to Downing Street to receive a Daily Star Gold Star award from the prime minister John Major; The Times presented her with its Human Achievement Award; she took part in a swimathon organised by the Olympic gold-medallist Duncan Goodhew. No wonder it was soon being put about that she had been nominated for a Nobel peace prize. It is now established in her biography that she is a 1996 Nobel peace prize nominee, something that is impossible to prove or disprove, as the identities of all nominees are kept secret for 50 years after their nomination. All that can be said is that nominees are proposed in the preceding year by previous laureates, eminent scholars and "qualified institutions or individuals". With the best will in the world, it is hard to imagine these worthies had heard of Heather in 1995.
Heather also claims the British Chambers of Commerce presented her with its Outstanding Young Person of the Year award and created the Heather Mills award, to be donated annually to a young person who had overcome hardship or disability. This came as a surprise to the British Chambers of Commerce. "We've never had an Outstanding Young Person of the Year award," said its spokesman, Olly Scott. "Neither do we have a Heather Mills Award."
None of this is to diminish the genuinely good work she undertook. She always found time to visit amputees and bolster their spirits by demonstrating how little she had been affected by her accident. She set up a charity, the Heather Mills Health Trust, to raise money for child-amputee victims worldwide and to lobby for the NHS to provide better prostheses. Judging by an interview she gave in January 1998, one could have been forgiven for thinking she was a superwoman. She was a rollerblader, scuba diver, mountain climber, tennis player, horse rider and skier — "her downhill speed matched that of the German world champion" — who was training for the winter Olympics. But in her private life, romantic happiness was elusive.
*snip*
That same month Heather gave an astonishing interview to my colleague Jasper Gerard, in which she revealed she was considering an offer of a peerage from the Labour government, that all the parties had invited her to stand as a parliamentary candidate and that she had backed out of a meeting with President Bill Clinton because she did not think she could be seen publicly endorsing the Democrats. She also let drop that she was the No 1 woman speaker in Britain, No 3 in Europe and No 7 in the world.
The actor Charles Stapley, Heather's effective stepfather for many years, says he is no longer interested in talking about her, but he is on record describing her as a "damaged personality" living in a "confused fantasy world". Conversely, Keith Kelly, the director of Adopt-A-Minefield, is full of praise for Heather, who became patron of the charity after it merged with the Heather Mills Health Trust: "Heather is 100% more positive than anyone I've ever worked with."
Subniv Babuta, a BBC producer who has worked with her, says she is dedicated, generous and kind, and "has star quality; her presence fills the room". "She was gritty, funny and brave," said the journalist Madeleine Kingsley, who accompanied Heather on a landmine tour. Richard Matthew, the director of the Center for Unconventional Security Affairs at the University of California, Irvine, which has established a Heather Mills McCartney Fellowship in Human Security, says she has made a huge contribution in the anti-landmine campaign: "Her work is something in which we can all take pride."
*snip*
"Every guy I've been out with has asked me to marry them within a week," she quipped. Subsequently invited back as a guest presenter this year to interview Paul Newman, Heather turned in a performance variously described as "embarrassing" and "simply awful". While Newman became increasingly taciturn, Heather prattled away, oblivious to his discomfort, talking about the work she was doing in Afghanistan to fight the heroin trade (a new dimension, previously unmentioned, to her charity endeavours) and the problems created by the "poppy growers back in Kuwait". Kuwait? Could she have meant Kabul? Heather also suggested to the bemused film star that he should follow her example and turn down future awards.
I want to read it now - it sounds fantastic!
In 1995 she wrote her autobiography, Out on a Limb, which would be hailed a bestseller. (It was republished in America in 2002 as A Single Step.) She recalled a childhood so bereft of love that she ran away from home at 13, joined a travelling fair and ended up sleeping under the arches at Waterloo station. Much of this was pure fantasy.
Heather was born on January 12, 1968, and grew up in Washington, Tyne and Wear, the middle child of Mark and Beatrice Mills. By Heather's account, her parents' marriage was not made in heaven. Mark Mills, a former army officer, was a feckless, social-climbing wife-beater who was incapable of showing affection towards his children, and dragged his family from place to place as his fortunes waxed and waned. She described an incident, while at primary school aged seven, when she and her friend Margaret Amble were "kidnapped" by the local swimming teacher. He was meant to take them to a swimming gala in Darlington but instead held them in his flat for three days. Heather said he only fondled her but took Margaret into his bedroom each night. Her former friend, Margaret, says this is a wildly exaggerated account, but she cannot talk any more about it, as she is about to sue Heather for breach of privacy. Her solicitor, Graham Atkins, confirmed a suit is pending.
When Heather was nine, her mother ran off with an actor, Charles Stapley, leaving her children in the care of their father. Beatrice had met Stapley when he was appearing at the Theatre Royal, Newcastle, and they set up home together in Clapham, south London. Heather assumed many of her mother's household duties. A few years later, Mark Mills was sent to prison for 18 months for fraud. Heather claimed that this happened when she was 13 and that her brother, Shane, was sent to stay with his grandmother in Brighton while she and her sister, Fiona, moved into the flat in Clapham her mother shared with Stapley. Friction soon followed. Heather admits she was difficult, and she ran away from home a few weeks before her 14th birthday. She wrote that she found refuge with a travelling fair, where she was given a "tiny caravan" and a job making tea and cleaning the fairground equipment. "I'd open tins of hot dogs, set up the sugar in the candyfloss machines, get apples out of the crates and coat them with toffee. I was a gofer, but I didn't mind... To me, living on the fair was like being born again."
Her idyll apparently came to an end after six months, when she found her best friend, Peter, dead in his caravan with a hypodermic needle in his arm. "Every instinct in my body was telling me to run..." she said. She claims she ended up sleeping in a box under the arches at Waterloo station for four months, washing in the station toilets, eating at soup kitchens or stealing food from supermarkets. She then moved in with friends who had a flat over an off-licence near her mother's flat. According to Heather's timetable of events, this would have been near the end of 1982. But school records indicate she and her sister stayed at Usworth comprehensive in Tyne and Wear until April 1983, when presumably her father was sent to prison. They were then enrolled at Hydeburn comprehensive in Clapham on June 6, 1983. Heather remained at Hydeburn until July 2, 1984, when she left, aged 16. She was, in fact, enrolled at school the whole time she was meant to have run away from home.
The next character to appear in her narrative, under the pseudonym of Mr Penrose, was the owner of a jewellery shop in Clapham where Heather said she got a Saturday job. Mr Penrose was in reality Jim Guy, the owner of Penrose Jewellers. "Everything she wrote about me was lies," said Guy. "I never gave her a job; she just hung around and made tea. She told me her father was dead. The only thing that was true was she nicked stuff from the shop." Heather admitted in her book stealing a roll of gold chains from him and selling it to buy a moped. When Guy reported the theft, she confessed, was taken to court and put on probation.
*snip*
Karmal encouraged her to try her hand at modelling and shot her first portfolio of pictures. When she complained she was not getting enough work, he set her up with her own agency, Excel Management, in Marylebone. In her book, Heather said the agency was a great success and was later sold to a rival agency. Karmal says it collapsed and he used the name for a shell company to set up a nightclub in Luton. "I began to realise," he said, "that she had difficulty telling the truth. She told me a lot about her past that turned out to be embellished or even fantasy; she told me so many fibs that if she'd said it was raining I'd have checked."
*snip*
The publication of Out on a Limb in June 1995 marked Heather's emergence as a fully fledged celebrity as well as a tireless charity worker. She was invited to Downing Street to receive a Daily Star Gold Star award from the prime minister John Major; The Times presented her with its Human Achievement Award; she took part in a swimathon organised by the Olympic gold-medallist Duncan Goodhew. No wonder it was soon being put about that she had been nominated for a Nobel peace prize. It is now established in her biography that she is a 1996 Nobel peace prize nominee, something that is impossible to prove or disprove, as the identities of all nominees are kept secret for 50 years after their nomination. All that can be said is that nominees are proposed in the preceding year by previous laureates, eminent scholars and "qualified institutions or individuals". With the best will in the world, it is hard to imagine these worthies had heard of Heather in 1995.
Heather also claims the British Chambers of Commerce presented her with its Outstanding Young Person of the Year award and created the Heather Mills award, to be donated annually to a young person who had overcome hardship or disability. This came as a surprise to the British Chambers of Commerce. "We've never had an Outstanding Young Person of the Year award," said its spokesman, Olly Scott. "Neither do we have a Heather Mills Award."
None of this is to diminish the genuinely good work she undertook. She always found time to visit amputees and bolster their spirits by demonstrating how little she had been affected by her accident. She set up a charity, the Heather Mills Health Trust, to raise money for child-amputee victims worldwide and to lobby for the NHS to provide better prostheses. Judging by an interview she gave in January 1998, one could have been forgiven for thinking she was a superwoman. She was a rollerblader, scuba diver, mountain climber, tennis player, horse rider and skier — "her downhill speed matched that of the German world champion" — who was training for the winter Olympics. But in her private life, romantic happiness was elusive.
*snip*
That same month Heather gave an astonishing interview to my colleague Jasper Gerard, in which she revealed she was considering an offer of a peerage from the Labour government, that all the parties had invited her to stand as a parliamentary candidate and that she had backed out of a meeting with President Bill Clinton because she did not think she could be seen publicly endorsing the Democrats. She also let drop that she was the No 1 woman speaker in Britain, No 3 in Europe and No 7 in the world.
The actor Charles Stapley, Heather's effective stepfather for many years, says he is no longer interested in talking about her, but he is on record describing her as a "damaged personality" living in a "confused fantasy world". Conversely, Keith Kelly, the director of Adopt-A-Minefield, is full of praise for Heather, who became patron of the charity after it merged with the Heather Mills Health Trust: "Heather is 100% more positive than anyone I've ever worked with."
Subniv Babuta, a BBC producer who has worked with her, says she is dedicated, generous and kind, and "has star quality; her presence fills the room". "She was gritty, funny and brave," said the journalist Madeleine Kingsley, who accompanied Heather on a landmine tour. Richard Matthew, the director of the Center for Unconventional Security Affairs at the University of California, Irvine, which has established a Heather Mills McCartney Fellowship in Human Security, says she has made a huge contribution in the anti-landmine campaign: "Her work is something in which we can all take pride."
*snip*
"Every guy I've been out with has asked me to marry them within a week," she quipped. Subsequently invited back as a guest presenter this year to interview Paul Newman, Heather turned in a performance variously described as "embarrassing" and "simply awful". While Newman became increasingly taciturn, Heather prattled away, oblivious to his discomfort, talking about the work she was doing in Afghanistan to fight the heroin trade (a new dimension, previously unmentioned, to her charity endeavours) and the problems created by the "poppy growers back in Kuwait". Kuwait? Could she have meant Kabul? Heather also suggested to the bemused film star that he should follow her example and turn down future awards.
I want to read it now - it sounds fantastic!
