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did anyone else see the fracas at country fair yesterday?

It's just good advice, steer clear of that area towards the end of the event. Why look for trouble? I don't think any trouble is good but there's no point in being all sensationalist either. Also I was told that reports of a stabbing may not be true, apparently there were rumours of stabbings, shootings etc that didn't actually happen.
 
What if you don't have the benefit of advice and you've never been before...

Flamethrower the little shits :D
 
So in the history of the world only in Brixton is there ever potential trouble near a music stage or fairground as night sets in? C'mon! As a suburban teenager nearly 40 years ago I knew that young men might get into fights in such a situation. Luckily knives hadn't been invented then and the neologism 'stabbing' was hardly known in the general population so life was completely safe. Gangs didn't exist either.
 
Agree with Mrs M to be fair. These are kids in the main, most of whom: (A) look bloody silly with yellow accessories and (B)looked terrified enough to dispel any serious concerns about feral youth and dangerous gangs.

It's sad that it's come to this, but the Country Show's become the equivalent of the park day when all the local schools gather to have a fight with each other. And in an atmosphere of heightened tension and kids trying to show off, it can be a chupsty area best avoided.

I saw a bit of the action on Sat fwiw, a grouping swiftly broken up by a horce charge. The amount of gossip afterwards was a little much - some people were apparently claiming a shooting in the Hootahob. Which was news to everyone drinking there and the staff.
 
Personally I would enjoy watching the little shits get pulverised by about 25 old school football hooligans.

Perhaps they can arrange it for around 6PM in the main arena next year

It would beat sheep shearing anyway.
 
So in the history of the world only in Brixton is there ever potential trouble near a music stage or fairground as night sets in? C'mon! As a suburban teenager nearly 40 years ago I knew that young men might get into fights in such a situation. Luckily knives hadn't been invented then and the neologism 'stabbing' was hardly known in the general population so life was completely safe. Gangs didn't exist either.
Yep, absolutely.

In my small town it was almost tradtional for the local hard cases to have a few beers on the Saturday night of the Fair and look for a bit of action - usually with the people working on the Fair itself.

Lots of running around and whatnot.
 
Also I was told that reports of a stabbing may not be true, apparently there were rumours of stabbings, shootings etc that didn't actually happen.

Well I asked the copper, at about 6pm on the Saturday, who was standing by a large cordoned off area right by the main arena why it was cordoned off and he told me someone had been stabbed and it was now a crime scene. Maybe they initially thought someone had been stabbed and they hadn't, but you can see where the rumour came from!


(no idea where the Hobgoblin rumour came from though - apart from Playghirl's post on here).
 
I mentioned this to a friend who was there at the weekend (another long term local) and her thing was
"Moody youth every year, just avoid the stage/fairground area towards the evening because if anything kicks off it'll be there."
That's about the size of it really, it's just loads of hormonal boys who get over-tired and over-excited in front of their mates.

Our next-door-neighbour's 19-year-old son got jumped at the street party yesterday by a gang from one of the estates. He was yards from his house at the time, and luckily there were loads of his friends and family nearby who managed to intervene before he got seriously battered. He's not a "bad boy", btw, as another neighbour remarked.

Over-tired and over-excited, or out of control?
 
Bloody hell, not good at all, Ms T.
Mind you I was referring specifically to unpleasantness near the fairground at the end of the show rather than anything happening anywhere else. I'm struggling to remember a year when there wasn't trouble by the fair.
 
Bloody hell, not good at all, Ms T.
Mind you I was referring specifically to unpleasantness near the fairground at the end of the show rather than anything happening anywhere else. I'm struggling to remember a year when there wasn't trouble by the fair.

On the positive side, the police arrived in a flash.
 
Well I asked the copper, at about 6pm on the Saturday, who was standing by a large cordoned off area right by the main arena why it was cordoned off and he told me someone had been stabbed and it was now a crime scene. Maybe they initially thought someone had been stabbed and they hadn't, but you can see where the rumour came from!


(no idea where the Hobgoblin rumour came from though - apart from Playghirl's post on here).


I heard about it as well from someone who doesn't post on here, although she said "shots were fired" rather than "someone was shot"
 
I do think people should keep things in perspective though. We probably live more safely in the UK now, whether in the inner-city or remote hamlet than in any other time in history.
 
From where I was sitting in the charities section (near the fairground area towards the Herne Hill gate) it seemed almost amusing as the two groups seemed to be running up and down across the site with the Police in pursuit and no actual confrontation -it didnt feel particularly dangerous: just 500 or so kids mostly under 16 running around a bit

This is how it felt to me. A couple of large waves of kids, looking for excitement, not trouble.
 
I do think people should keep things in perspective though. We probably live more safely in the UK now, whether in the inner-city or remote hamlet than in any other time in history.

Yeah, I agree. When people say how much less knife crime there was 50 years ago, I suggest they go and read Brighton Rock.
 
Yeah, I agree. When people say how much less knife crime there was 50 years ago, I suggest they go and read Brighton Rock.

But there was less violent crime 50 years ago on most fronts - domestic violence perhaps the notable exception. Brighton Rock is a good novel (and film) but it doesn't amount to statistical data.
 
I think society is certainly safer from the old causes of crime - namely poverty, but yoof crime isn't as poverty-centric and I'm not convinced people in that section of society are less exposed to crime. Especially in cities.
 
that statement gets more ridiculous each time I read it Mrs Magpie.

infact.. you must have been taking the piss?
 
Yes it was obviously sarcastic. Part of the reflexive liberal 'nothing could have possibly got worse in any way since the 1950s' orthodoxy.
 
that statement gets more ridiculous each time I read it Mrs Magpie.

infact.. you must have been taking the piss?
Blimey! Do keep up! Of course I was taking the piss. I didn't think I could get it dripping with any more sarcasm than it was already.
 
Yes it was obviously sarcastic. Part of the reflexive liberal 'nothing could have possibly got worse in any way since the 1950s' orthodoxy.
It's more to do with the fact I reject the 'Henny-Penny! The sky is falling!' tabloid hysteria.
 
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A big "Hello!" from 1962.
 
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