I wonder where they would end up then? The Thames will become a watery grave for many I fear.
Dickheads trash Paris bike rental scheme
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I wonder where they would end up then? The Thames will become a watery grave for many I fear.
untethered
For industry & decency
Tricycles would perhaps be a more civilised and sustainable approach, but my instinct is that socialised personal transport is doomed to fail at this scale.
Sorry, but I just find this funny.
Welcome to the world, it's full of fuckers taking the piss at any available opportunity, anyone that thinks otherwise is bonkers
I don't think it's a total shock to Parisian authorities that bikes are getting stolen and vandalized, but 'Terms of Parisian Bike Program Renegotiated After Theft and Vandalism Somewhat Exceeds Initial Projections' wouldn't be a snappy enough headline.
With a basket too? I quite fancy that. They should all be red.
untethered
For industry & decency
For the ladies.
Black or racing green for the chaps.
I take it when you say "basket" you mean a real wicker basket, not one of those wire things.
untethered
For industry & decency
Berlin has a "call a bike" system run by Deutsche Bahn, where you book a bike and collect it from a railway station. The bike has to be returned to the station, but it's a good way of "joining up" some journeys.
http://www.callabike-interaktiv.de/kundenbuchung/process.php?proc=english&f=500
There's a great promo video if you click "Flashvideo Call a Bike" in the right-hand column on that page.
http://www.callabike-interaktiv.de/kundenbuchung/process.php?proc=english&f=500
There's a great promo video if you click "Flashvideo Call a Bike" in the right-hand column on that page.
ska invita
back on the other side
Dont you have to put some kind of depost/debit card down as insurance against not returning the bike?
Good thing with this is you could find yourself just wanting to make a one way journey and leave the bike there...
Wolveryeti
Detty Pig
Thing is, you need a 'parking bay' to put your bike in unless you're happy with getting charged tonnes of cash. Defeats the point of cycling IMO. I'd certainly not use it.
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
It takes so much of the hastle out of owning a bike. Means out of town visitors can use them.
Don't believe the hype.
I lived in Paris the past 18 months and the scheme is working very, very well indeed. Try ending it now and you'd have a riot on your hands. Indeed it been extended to the suburbs, and extended to green/clean cars too.
The BBC story is simply a rehash of the Times one. The Times guy, Bremner, didn't like the scheme from the off, so is sticking the knife in, again.
If you read his figures closesly, it's only haf of the _original_ fleet which may or may not have been vandalised. Over 18 months, many of them being repaired and returned in the mean time. That fleet was almost immediately doubled in size and has been increased since, so the total number is a much lower proportion than he makes out. Journo's trick.
Also, you don't need a credit card to book them, merely to have left a deposit via debit card, which is not claimed unless you steal the bike.
c350 euros for one of those bikes is good value for the taxpayer - they are built like fucking tanks, yet ride really smoothly.
The reason the London scheme won't work is because Boris is doing it half-arsed and on the cheap - nowhere near enough bikes (much less than Paris for a much bigger city) and nowhere near enough docking stations (none outside big railway stations). It will be a disaster which will set back the concept in London by a decade/generation.
The Deutsche Bahn German system, btw untethered, does not require return of bike to a train station. You can drop them off anywhere in the city then ring in the location.
I lived in Paris the past 18 months and the scheme is working very, very well indeed. Try ending it now and you'd have a riot on your hands. Indeed it been extended to the suburbs, and extended to green/clean cars too.
The BBC story is simply a rehash of the Times one. The Times guy, Bremner, didn't like the scheme from the off, so is sticking the knife in, again.
If you read his figures closesly, it's only haf of the _original_ fleet which may or may not have been vandalised. Over 18 months, many of them being repaired and returned in the mean time. That fleet was almost immediately doubled in size and has been increased since, so the total number is a much lower proportion than he makes out. Journo's trick.
Also, you don't need a credit card to book them, merely to have left a deposit via debit card, which is not claimed unless you steal the bike.
c350 euros for one of those bikes is good value for the taxpayer - they are built like fucking tanks, yet ride really smoothly.
The reason the London scheme won't work is because Boris is doing it half-arsed and on the cheap - nowhere near enough bikes (much less than Paris for a much bigger city) and nowhere near enough docking stations (none outside big railway stations). It will be a disaster which will set back the concept in London by a decade/generation.
The Deutsche Bahn German system, btw untethered, does not require return of bike to a train station. You can drop them off anywhere in the city then ring in the location.
Not. true. in. the. slightest.
18 years cycling experience in London, 18 months in Paris tells me you coudln't be more wrong.
snowy_again
Slush
Are they serious about bringing a similar scheme to London?
There's already a mini scheme in Hammersmith somewhere, s'been running for a while.
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
FAIL! How stupid! I bet this is a railtrack thing, with them not giving permission.
Oswaldtwistle
Banned
Would an alternative approach be to slightly liberalise the rules on cycles on public transport, along side schemes to encourage more bike ownership? I'm not suggesting a free-for-all, on a rush hour tube that would be a nightmare, just a slight liberalisation.
Oswaldtwistle
Banned
Even here though, there might be a case for allowing slightly more off peak access via stations with lifts?
thanks for this.
so, is the real story what I thought it was then - JCDecaux trying to squeeze more public money out of this on top of the free advertising sites they got in the first place?
Are you suggesting that if all phone calls were free then pissed up kids wouldn't smash up telephone boxes..?
Or if parks were free they wouldn't, oh, hang on...
They had them there at least two years ago
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