Di Canio does it again...
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He got a one game ban and Sepp The Hutt said he was 'appalled' and in future 'tough and merciless action will be taken'
Phew, I'm scared, that taught him!
Phew, I'm scared, that taught him!
kained&able
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butchersapron said:
umm he saluted, if he kicked the shit out of someone because they were asian. or if he refused to pass to a black team mate beacue of his skin colour. Or if he even refused to play ina team with black/non whote players. Then he would need firing banning and slapping about a lot.
But he didn't all he did was salute a section of his own fans(far as i know) which he used to belong to in a way that they normally do.This doesn't constitute a life time ban and certainly doesn't make him desreving of a lynching.
It might make his politics fairly dodgy and might mean that if i ever had dinner with the bloke then certain discussions would be a bad plan, but its hardly the worlds biggest thing is it. Lee bowyr the spanish coach and el hadji diouf should be above di canio in everyones shit list at the very least.
dave
butchersapron
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What this 'real' non-racist fascism then?STFC Loyal said:
Rocket Romano said:
I don't see how a one-match ban is adequate. Essien got two for a bad tackle (which was deserved).....are they saying this offence is only 50% as bad?
Also, regarding the racism point, do you think the Lazio fans will make the same distinction between racism and fascism? Does this mean there will be no monkey chants at black players because Di Canio likes them.
Throw the book at him - there's no place for this in football.
Red Faction
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kained&unable said:
what did diouf do apart from regularly spit on opposition fans?
Rollem
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kained / stfc loyal you really are sounding like bleeding idiots on this one
"its ok, he admired hitler as a public speaker, not a fucking right wing lunatic"
"its ok, he like mussollini until he went bonkers"
poor arguement, as is the "he only did a salute to his fans" the salute he did is right wing, linked with fascism, racism (bound together like glue these two aren't they?
) and everything else unsavoury that goes with it. you think thats ok, you really are short sighted.
couple it all with the delayed kick off for the anti racism stand and your arguement falls flat on its face
as for bringing diouf into this
wtf! he spat at fans, poor play and out of order, but are you really putting that above fascism?!?!?
twat
"its ok, he admired hitler as a public speaker, not a fucking right wing lunatic"
"its ok, he like mussollini until he went bonkers"
poor arguement, as is the "he only did a salute to his fans" the salute he did is right wing, linked with fascism, racism (bound together like glue these two aren't they?
) and everything else unsavoury that goes with it. you think thats ok, you really are short sighted. couple it all with the delayed kick off for the anti racism stand and your arguement falls flat on its face
as for bringing diouf into this
wtf! he spat at fans, poor play and out of order, but are you really putting that above fascism?!?!?twat
kained&able
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yep i am. Diouf is a nsty little cunt who someone needs to slap often or at least break his legs(de zeuw im looking at you for this). I can think of very little more offensive then spitting at someone in thier face. Certainly its worse then a fucking hand gesture even one steeped in dodgyness.
how long did fowler get for the coke snorting celebration? Di canio should recive no more then that number in my opinion.
If you want me to go into how much i loathe fifa there hypocracy and general lack of balls i can do that rant very nicely. But from reading di canios biography and listning to interviews and stuff im preety convinced he isn't in the slightest bit racist(well no more then anyone else).
have to say the timing was poor though with the anti racism thingy delaying the kick off though. But if he did it bneacuse of livernos massive left wing support then fucking fair play. Its all about taking the piss.
Anyone read anything from dicano about this incident, it would be well helpful.
dave
how long did fowler get for the coke snorting celebration? Di canio should recive no more then that number in my opinion.
If you want me to go into how much i loathe fifa there hypocracy and general lack of balls i can do that rant very nicely. But from reading di canios biography and listning to interviews and stuff im preety convinced he isn't in the slightest bit racist(well no more then anyone else).
have to say the timing was poor though with the anti racism thingy delaying the kick off though. But if he did it bneacuse of livernos massive left wing support then fucking fair play. Its all about taking the piss.
Anyone read anything from dicano about this incident, it would be well helpful.
dave
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You're a grade A wanker then, if you think those two are comparable.kained&unable said:
Rollem
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we can all do that dave, nothing to brag about. thats a different threadkained&unable said:
to compare di canio's actions to that of diouf, or fowler seems juvinille to me.
as for saying its all about taking the piss; yeah, of course it is, but there's a line and he crossed it impo (take one look at his face, does he look like he's "taking the piss?!? )
kained&able
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dubious celebration done at a football match allegedly directed at opposition fans.
I think its a perfectly valid comparision to be quite honest. Just one of the celebartions clebrates stuff you put in your nose(therefore good) and one is something everyone would rather not be talked about and have a bloke lose his profession over.
and no rollem he doesnt look like he is taking the piss. he looks like a physcho thats ready to eat children. But umm he isn't, so what can you do.
dave
I think its a perfectly valid comparision to be quite honest. Just one of the celebartions clebrates stuff you put in your nose(therefore good) and one is something everyone would rather not be talked about and have a bloke lose his profession over.
and no rollem he doesnt look like he is taking the piss. he looks like a physcho thats ready to eat children. But umm he isn't, so what can you do.
dave
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/4550506.stm
Dave man, Shaka says no to further friendship - and I have met Shaka a fair few times now, he's the most down to earth considerate international footballer and rocket scientist there is. Good lad Shaka
Dave man, Shaka says no to further friendship - and I have met Shaka a fair few times now, he's the most down to earth considerate international footballer and rocket scientist there is. Good lad Shaka
Belushi said:
Not according to books I've read. Quite a few leading fascists were in fact Jewish, as was one of Mussolini's many mistresses. Racism did come into play when Mussolini started cosying up to Hitler, but it wasn't a part of fascist ideology at its birth.
Anyway, Di Canio got a one match ban, that's the end of it. Just hope it's not the game against Ascoli on 08/01/2006 as I'd like to see him play.
Red Faction
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fascism in its initial form wasnt anti-semitic
the nazis did that anyway
fascism was just set up by mussolini as an alternative for the italian workers to stop the communists getting into power
people like primo levi only went into concentration camps when hitler became de facto leader of italy
anyway- thats a discussion for P+P
paolo is a very very silly/naughty boy
and im surprised he got off so lightly tbh
the nazis did that anyway
fascism was just set up by mussolini as an alternative for the italian workers to stop the communists getting into power
people like primo levi only went into concentration camps when hitler became de facto leader of italy
anyway- thats a discussion for P+P
paolo is a very very silly/naughty boy
and im surprised he got off so lightly tbh
kained&able
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Hislop is well involed in the kick racism out the game type stuff so not exacly shocked.
You would hope that one of your mates would tell you face to face that your being a twat and idoiesn't want to speak o him again face to face rather then through the papers though.
dave
You would hope that one of your mates would tell you face to face that your being a twat and idoiesn't want to speak o him again face to face rather then through the papers though.
dave
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Red Faction said:fascism in its initial form wasnt anti-semitic
the nazis did that anyway
fascism was just set up by mussolini as an alternative for the italian workers to stop the communists getting into power
people like primo levi only went into concentration camps when hitler became de facto leader of italy
anyway- thats a discussion for P+P
paolo is a very very silly/naughty boy
and im surprised he got off so lightly tbh
You are so fucking wrong on fascism it's not true.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
kained&unable said:
What on earth is that supposed to mean?
kained&able
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umm he is very anti racist and involved in the main movemeant within football. Therefore he wasn't likely to go fash salute good, di canio god.
dave
dave
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Yeah, and again wtf are you pointing that out for? What point is it making? Black people don't like people that embrace an ideology that led to the extermination of millions along racial lines. Cheers dave, thanks for that.
Bonfirelight
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i think the point kained is making is not so much that Shaka is black therefor he would be against dicanio, more that that Hislop is very publicly involved in the anti racism campaign so could not really take a position where he was seen to give DiCanio any slack else he'd undermine his position somewhat.
So because of this, and not so much his skin colour, it's no shock he came out strongly against DiCanio on this one.
but you knew that anyway
kained&able
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Oh and from losts link.
[quote by dicanio] "I will always salute that way because it gives me a sense of belonging to my people," he said recently.
But Hislop is disgusted by Di Canio's explanation for his straight-armed salute. [/quote]
Personally i am prerpared to take him on his word, beacuse of stuff in his book interviews i have read and yes obviously the colour of one of the kits he used to wear. If your not fair enough but i really get pissed off with being called a twat(grade a no less) just for having a different fucking opinion around here.
See what happens with shak and di canio but to be honest it doesn't sound like anything that a phone call wont fix.
and bonfirelight that would be the one i am trying to point out yes. In fact bollocks to it fuck you buthcers at what point in this discusiion have i ever mentioned the colour of shakas fucking skin.
edited: to change the word any to shakas
dave
[quote by dicanio] "I will always salute that way because it gives me a sense of belonging to my people," he said recently.
But Hislop is disgusted by Di Canio's explanation for his straight-armed salute. [/quote]
Personally i am prerpared to take him on his word, beacuse of stuff in his book interviews i have read and yes obviously the colour of one of the kits he used to wear. If your not fair enough but i really get pissed off with being called a twat(grade a no less) just for having a different fucking opinion around here.
See what happens with shak and di canio but to be honest it doesn't sound like anything that a phone call wont fix.
and bonfirelight that would be the one i am trying to point out yes. In fact bollocks to it fuck you buthcers at what point in this discusiion have i ever mentioned the colour of shakas fucking skin.
edited: to change the word any to shakas
dave
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
kained&unable said:
No fuck you and your feeble attmepts to defend an out an out unashamed fascist. You're arguments have been so poor that i'd have had more trouble arguing with a claret and blue pig (some might say i already have been). And that's all this comes down to isn't it - you like him because he used to play for west ham. How small and insular your world must be to be able to ignore everything else, to ignore history - and to pretend to do it the name of principles when you're merely showing your own lack! Fuck you you fascist appeasing twat.
kained&able
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more dicanio quotes about incident.
Juventus' France defender Lilian Thuram said in an interview with Sky Television that Di Canio told him before last Saturday's kickoff that his gesture had nothing to do with the Nazi salute and that he wasn't a fascist.
"He told me that his salute belonged to ancient Rome," Thuram said.
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/5183346
"Di Canio is an exhibitionist. His salute didn't have any significance," Berlusconi told a group of foreign reporters.
"He's a good lad," added the prime minister, who owns Serie A team AC Milan.
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/new...220:MTFH99496_2005-12-20_23-38-57_L20575891:1
Lazio president Claudio Lotito defended his player and said: “His gesture was not political and it has been misinterpreted.”
http://breakingnews.iol.ie/sport/story.asp?j=166686600&p=y666873x6&t=soccer
dave
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ma...n22.xml&sSheet=/sport/2005/12/22/ixfooty.html
Juventus' France defender Lilian Thuram said in an interview with Sky Television that Di Canio told him before last Saturday's kickoff that his gesture had nothing to do with the Nazi salute and that he wasn't a fascist.
"He told me that his salute belonged to ancient Rome," Thuram said.
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/5183346
"Di Canio is an exhibitionist. His salute didn't have any significance," Berlusconi told a group of foreign reporters.
"He's a good lad," added the prime minister, who owns Serie A team AC Milan.
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/new...220:MTFH99496_2005-12-20_23-38-57_L20575891:1
Lazio president Claudio Lotito defended his player and said: “His gesture was not political and it has been misinterpreted.”
http://breakingnews.iol.ie/sport/story.asp?j=166686600&p=y666873x6&t=soccer
dave
