devils whore - channel4 english civil war drama

[elevendayempire]

I'd like to see JJ Abrams tackle a subject like this:

Lost meets the War of the Roses...

JJ Abrams wouldn't be able to cope with historical drama. How would he spin nebulous webs of pre-release marketing (to cover up the fact that he has no idea where his story's going), when we already know the outcome of the story?

 

[belboid]

well it just seemed to kick off before you knew it and i reckon the king's a gonna cop it pretty soon

it started before the first events shown in the prog (well, the main part of the prog, not the young abigail bit). I'd agree it could have done with a bit more build up tho

 

[madzone]

My Sky Planner refers to this programe as The Devil's Wh**e which is quite amusing.
Censored film titles on Sky Planner, whatever next?

I spend ages wondering what it was - still didn't guess

 

[poului]

54etudgc

The actor who played Fanshawe was one of the worst I've ever seen on tele. Just fucking atrocious.

I was so pleasantly surprised when he got capped like a bitch.

 

[lang rabbie]

It is turning into a surreal mixture of Witchfinder General and The Wicked Lady

 

[Azrael]

Bit trippy really, which is the ideal mood for a Civil War drama.

Loving the panto Satan who shows up every so often.

 

[Dillinger4]

Like I said on the other thread:

I like it.

 

[Groucho]

Like I said on the other thread:

I like it.

Me too!

I missed this thread and I did a search for devil and whore too

Up the Levellers! (and the Diggers and Ranters too)

 

[belboid]

aah, just checking the timeline, and they have entirely skipped the putney debates, shame.

Not sure why they made out Rainsborough was killed on Cromwell's orders, when it was actually done by Royalists.

 

[elevendayempire]

aah, just checking the timeline, and they have entirely skipped the putney debates, shame.

Not sure why they made out Rainsborough was killed on Cromwell's orders, when it was actually done by Royalists.

I think that was meant to be deliberately ambiguous; you're meant to think Rainsborough is being killed on Cromwell's orders, but the end of the scene makes it clear that the "one man" he's talking about is the King.

 

[IC3D]

I think that was meant to be deliberately ambiguous; you're meant to think Rainsborough is being killed on Cromwell's orders, but the end of the scene makes it clear that the "one man" he's talking about is the King.

Oh missed that thanks

 

[zenie]

I liked her red dress in the last one

What will happen next then....

 

[belboid]

I think that was meant to be deliberately ambiguous; you're meant to think Rainsborough is being killed on Cromwell's orders, but the end of the scene makes it clear that the "one man" he's talking about is the King.

really, how so? Everyone I know (ie, me, me sis, mrs belboid & the guardian reviewer) thought it was meant to be cromwell. i'll have to see if its online anywhere to check...

 

[Dillinger4]

Nobody has mentioned it on this thread yet, but Andrea Riseborough is so so so gorgeous. She is so pale.

 

[belboid]

oh yes they have!

tho it took me a wee while to stop myself thinking 'nooo, a sexy looking Thatcher' when Andrea Riseborough was on.

 

[Dillinger4]

oh yes they have!

Well, she is so gorgeous, it needed saying again.

 

[Spion]

So, what episode are we up to? I want to torrent the ones I've missed

 

[belboid]

ep 3 this week

 

[zenie]

Oooh so that bastard is gonna try and kill her again!

I bet he's got the right hump by now!

Why couldn't she love Sexby?

(I would!!)

 

[Rollem]

Why couldn't she love Sexby?

(I would!!)

 

[gnoriac]

Did anyone not guess the hangman would turn out to be Sexby?

 

[Rollem]

did anyone else pick up on the "pot to piss in" line from honest john? thats wher the saying comes from you know

and 'warts and all' is from cromwell, when he had a portrait painted and requested that they paint a true likeness "warts and all"

as you were

 

[kyser_soze]

Yeah, I got pot to piss in - heard it and thought 'I bet that's where it started'.

Watched it for the first time last night...decent bit of drama for sure; mostly impressed.

 

[belboid]

did anyone else pick up on the "pot to piss in" line from honest john? thats wher the saying comes from you know

hmm?? I doubt that very much actually. For one thing it looked like a deliberate act to carry out an act that everyone would recognise as demeaning the court. For another people had had to be pissing in pots and other such utensils for centuries, there being no sewerage or owt. 'Pot to piss in' was probably around hundreds of years before Honest John Lilburne ever uttered the words.

Nicely done with the 'Ranters' tho, who may very well not have really existed, and could well have been an early 'honey trap' operation

 

[kyser_soze]

Could they have been making a reference to the Barkers?

I love that some of the puritan sects were arguably the first socialist/anarchist collectives...

 

[Rollem]

hmm?? I doubt that very much actually. For one thing it looked like a deliberate act to carry out an act that everyone would recognise as demeaning the court. For another people had had to be pissing in pots and other such utensils for centuries, there being no sewerage or owt. 'Pot to piss in' was probably around hundreds of years before Honest John Lilburne ever uttered the words.

well thats what i was always told....<goes to wikki it....>

 

[belboid]

I love that some of the puritan sects were arguably the first socialist/anarchist collectives...

german/dutch anabaptists similarly communistic a hundred years earlier as well

 

[kyser_soze]

Hmmm...interesting...I've often wondered at the connection between religion and socialism, especially since in it's C20th guise all the major socialist states were more closely modelled on the Catholic church in form and function, rather than the gathered churches (diggers, Barkers etc) of the C17-18th where, I presume, the inspiration for early socialists came from...

 

[belboid]

Q (the Luther Blisset book) goes on about the anabaptists being, effectively, commies. Engels agree's. As does that John Gray (tho in a rather more disparaging sense than old Freddy)

 

[dodgepot]

last night's was great. i was googling about levellers and diggers and stuff after after - remember a little bit about them but not much. still need to catch up on last week's, which i missed.

Nobody has mentioned it on this thread yet, but Andrea Riseborough is so so so gorgeous. She is so pale.

can't say i'd noticed