Detroit Techno Purists Thread

Discussion in 'music, bands, clubs & festies' started by killer b, Oct 24, 2014.

  1. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    its not really festival material tbh... in a small venue it would be great though
    home listening is good too
     
  2. killer b

    killer b Gazing vacantly at a plate of mince

    I'm only really bothered about seeing anything in small venues these days.
     
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  3. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    strictly stadiums?
     
  4. killer b

    killer b Gazing vacantly at a plate of mince

    I've never been to a stadium gig I don't think.
     
  5. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    sorry misread your post as saying Im NOT really bothered about seeing anything in small venues these days. :facepalm: got confused!
     
  6. dialectician

    dialectician Well-Known Member

    Apart from some deep dark atmospheric techno in Japan. Really want to go labyrinth. or berghain's huge room.
     
  7. Cowley

    Cowley Well-Known Member

    That's where they come from though, Jazz/Funk influences like Herbie Hancock, to more Esoteric Jazz like Myles Davis, Sun Ra etc. I do see what you are saying but the bottom line is that original Techno was really Machine made music with a lot of soul, that's where UR are coming from and the distinction between early Detroit Techno and Chicago/New York House is very blurred.

    Edited to add: Gerald Mitchell the keyboard player in UR who was behind a lot of the now UR Classics such as "Jupiter Jazz" clearly has his roots in Jazz, you can tell by the chords he puts together which are basically built on the traditional Jazz Chord Progressions much like a lot of Deep House is ala Theo Parrish, Moodymann etc.
     
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  8. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    Wish I'd seen them in 1992, with Rob Hood on MC duties. See them here from 5.07:
     
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  9. Spandex

    Spandex Well-Known Member

    Love this picture of Jeff Mills (right) DJing as The Wizard.

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  10. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

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  11. Spandex

    Spandex Well-Known Member

    Four of the first wave Detroit producers have got together as Four313 to put a record out, play some clubs and generally relive their youth. Here's a preview (can't find any whole tracks on youtube): Four313

    There's Blake Baxter - yep, know him. Eddie 'Flashin' Fowlkes - yep, know him. Santonio Echols - yep, know him. And Thomas Barnett - y... wait, who?

    I had to google who Thomas Barnett was and it turns out that, of course, I did know who he was: he co-wrote Nude Photo with Derrick May, he had a track on the 313 Detroit comp and one on the True People comp. But for some reason his name meant nothing to me - is he well known and I just hadn't noticed or is he underrated? I checked him out some more and - fuck me - his album Frequencies From The Abyss is immense:

    Thomas Barnett - Do Bionics Crystalize?
     
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  12. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    I knew about him, but I'm a big fan. I think he also played the piano part on May's Strings Of Life.
    I don't think he put out a lot of stuff
     
  13. Spandex

    Spandex Well-Known Member

    That's a pretty fucking big claim to fame :cool:
     
  14. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    i think there's some beef between barnett and may - may is known for not crediting people who've co-produced some of his records
     
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  15. mwgdrwg

    mwgdrwg Be a Pisces. Jam.

    Jeff Mills co-hosting the B.Traits show on Radio 1 right now for the next 3 hours :thumbs:
     
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  16. danski

    danski Comfortable chair.

  17. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    A little game: can you tell if a Detroit tune is from Detroit or not? Or has it been made somewhere else in the world (usually Europe)? I used to think I could tell, but that was stupid.

    This is one of my favourite new Detroit tunes Ive come across recently.... place of origin in the spoiler if you fancy a guess

    Polish producer (now living in Germany)
     
    Last edited: Jun 3, 2017
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  18. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    I was discussing the demise of the NME on Twitter and we were talking about how laughably bad it's coverage of house and techno, and a friend pointed out that they called Derrick May 'The King Of The 303' while pointing out that he never used one. Is this true? I can't think of any of his tunes having acid lines on them, but he may have subtly used the 303 in a production or two and I didn't notice.
    Fez909 Spandex dialectician killer b
     
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  19. Spandex

    Spandex Well-Known Member

    I can't think of any of his own productions where he uses a 303. In this interview from 1990 he talks equipment a fair bit and there's no mention of a 303: Techno Rhythim (MT Nov 90)

    This is the equipment list from the article:

    Ensoniq Mirage Sampler
    Fostex 260 4-track
    Hill DX500 Power Amp
    Korg Poly 800 Synthesiser
    Kawai K3 Synthesiser
    Korg SQD1 Sequencer (2)
    Roland TR808 Drum Machine
    Roland TR909 Drum Machine
    Roland TR727 Drum Machine
    Roland R8 Drum Machine
    Roland MSQ700 Sequencer
    Roland MC500 Sequencer
    TOA Monitors
    Yamaha DX100 Synthesiser
    Yamaha DX21 Synthesiser

    but if you get into remixes he did, then yeah, there's some 303: Annette - Dream 17 (Derrick May remix) (1988)

    Not sure that quite qualifies him as "The King of The 303" considering the competition :D
     
  20. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    This is not for the purists, but I wasn't sure where else to post it, but I found out today that the first release on NWA's Ruthless Records was this gem:
     
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  21. mwgdrwg

    mwgdrwg Be a Pisces. Jam.

  22. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp!

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