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Derren Brown - how he does it *spoilers

if he could get Lazarus to answer from where he was when Jesus first met him ,hat would be impressive indeed!
He was an old family friend, so he wasn't dead first time he met him.

But, yes, if I could write that again I'd chose another Biblical name.
 
I thought the bit where he had the blindfold on was when he was shouting out names and ages: "Is there a 46 year old called Andy" etc.

It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of those people booked with credit cards giving access to their personal details and the ones whose names/ages were called out had social networking sites with plenty of available information about them...

Just one theory anyway.


That was mine too. If you have someone's name and location and a facebook account you're in. In an audience that size, for a man with his memory and cold reading skills, it's a piece of piss.

Not that I'm saying I could do it, of course. The memory skills and cold reading are nigh on impossible to learn to a decent level but for a man at the top of the game like that....
 
Remember that Derren has a fantastic memory (his library trick comes to mind). And then remember that 90% of that audience booked tickets with a credit card. And that it isn't difficult to get information about people once you have their name, address, credit card details and whatnot.

Yes, that occurred to me during the show last night. I only saw a tiny bit. People have booked tickets so potentially he has access to their names, addresses and seat numbers. Assuming that a reasonable number of people have distinctive names, you can find a fair bit of information about quite a few of them using the interweb that will bring up stories in local papers, etc.

Wasn't there something about someone winning a house. That would be all over the Interweb.

Edit: reading some more posts above -- Oh, yeah, and Facebook and stuff!
 
If you are trying to get someone to agree with you or open themselves up to suggestion, nodding at them prompts them to nod back, which automatically puts them in a suggestive state - Derren is so used to doing this with people he constantly nods, so it looks like a tic.

The guy who won a competition for the house in France........simply searching on peoples names and locations on google (from their credit card details) to see if they were in the news recently for anything will provide that sort of info straight away. You can see who's been allocated which seat number as well so know where to throw the frizbee so you can hone in on certain people with stuff you've learned beforehand. Having a great memory helps but learning interesting things (rather than boring stuff like their name is John) means they'll stick in your head a lot more as well.
 
I'd imagine he was using more than one technique.



Oh yeah definitely, I know the tricks are out there but have no idea how they are actually done.

Like that chest with the predictions about the girl at the end (white shoes, stripey top etc). Its obvious he pre-selected her and wrote all that stuff about her on the scroll of paper.

Its also clear that he faked writing that number 23 on the paper till he heard what she said. Probably the way he did this was the paper had some kind of carbon element and he wrote 23 on it after she said 20 using his fingernail behind his back. If you recall, he even said "excuse my writing, its a bit crap" when faking writing his number down to excuse the fact his numbers might look a bit wonky.

How the other stuff gets on the scroll on the box though I have no idea, doubtless if I spend $3K through that link above it'll let me know but that ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
 
Yes, that occurred to me during the show last night. I only saw a tiny bit. People have booked tickets so potentially he has access to their names, addresses and seat numbers. Assuming that a reasonable number of people have distinctive names, you can find a fair bit of information about quite a few of them using the interweb that will bring up stories in local papers, etc.

Wasn't there something about someone winning a house. That would be all over the Interweb.

Alright how the fuck did you just predict my post :mad::hmm:
 
Alright how the fuck did you just predict my post :mad::hmm:

Ha ha. Great minds. I think quite a few people watching have rumbled him. I think I read in one of his books about how "psychics" have always scoured local papers, etc. to get details about their audience.
 
Yes, that occurred to me during the show last night. I only saw a tiny bit. People have booked tickets so potentially he has access to their names, addresses and seat numbers. Assuming that a reasonable number of people have distinctive names, you can find a fair bit of information about quite a few of them using the interweb that will bring up stories in local papers, etc.

Wasn't there something about someone winning a house. That would be all over the Interweb.

Edit: reading some more posts above -- Oh, yeah, and Facebook and stuff!

Right. And the being able to get the right people whilst being blindfolded and throwing frisbees into (what for him would've been) darkness?
 
Right. And the being able to get the right people whilst being blindfolded and throwing frisbees into (what for him would've been) darkness?

No idea! But, as several people have pointed out, the seat number, names, Internet thing must be one of many tools he uses...
 
That was mine too. If you have someone's name and location and a facebook account you're in. In an audience that size, for a man with his memory and cold reading skills, it's a piece of piss.

Not that I'm saying I could do it, of course. The memory skills and cold reading are nigh on impossible to learn to a decent level but for a man at the top of the game like that....

Even when he is on tour doing shows night after night ? It would be mentally gruelling :eek:

Surely he'd also need a team of researchers, with the possibility of leaks ?
 
Yes, that occurred to me during the show last night. I only saw a tiny bit. People have booked tickets so potentially he has access to their names, addresses and seat numbers. Assuming that a reasonable number of people have distinctive names, you can find a fair bit of information about quite a few of them using the interweb that will bring up stories in local papers, etc.

Wasn't there something about someone winning a house. That would be all over the Interweb.

Edit: reading some more posts above -- Oh, yeah, and Facebook and stuff!

agreed shit loads of info on t'internet

I went on a training course once and there was a woman there from Gloucester who hinted that she was known around that area (for something that had been in the papers) but didn't want to allaborate amungst strangers

so when I got home I looked it up

several press stories about her salsa dance teacher husband getting convicted of raping one of his pupils and she (the wife) was standing by her man blaming the ex dance studant for harassment:eek:
 
Yeah, but that theatre had about 5000 people in it. He's gonna memorise that level of info for every single one of those people every night (142 I think it said) the show is on?
 
Yeah, but that theatre had about 5000 people in it. He's gonna memorise that level of info for every single one of those people every night (142 I think it said) the show is on?

142? Not even the equivelent of memorising 3 packs of cards.

I bet thats no probelm for our Derren
 
I also think he is great for the way he goes out of his way to completely debunk mystics and psychics who are a pox on the world and long overdue a severe arsekicking and imprisonment for fraud.

Yeah, me too. He is my hero for that, if nothing else.

I'd personally love to see him do an entire debunking of that twat from Most Haunted. That would be worth watching all on its own.
 
Even when he is on tour doing shows night after night ? It would be mentally gruelling :eek:

Surely he'd also need a team of researchers, with the possibility of leaks ?

Dunno. The shows would have been sold out months in advance, so it's not like he would have to be on the Interweb during the tour. Just looking at the notes he'd made and memorising seat numbers for people he had info on. Still an amazing feat just getting to the auditorium and working out where seat numbers are located.

Disclaimer: I've got to say I only saw a bit of the show last night but I bet it's one tool he uses.
 
Most people have their Facebook profiles set to private though so I don't see how that would help him. Unless he added them as friends and that would be a bit obvious don't you think? :hmm:
 
If D Brown can manipulate a room full of paying public to do whatever the fuckk he wants
do you really think any of his researchers are gonna dob him in??

:D surely his techniques wouldn't work on 100% ?

Yeah, but that theatre had about 5000 people in it. He's gonna memorise that level of info for every single one of those people every night (142 I think it said) the show is on?

http://www.derrenbrown.co.uk/tour

check the tour dates, it's relentless night after night with no breaks. Surely he'd just become mentally and physically burnt out. There's just not enough hours in the day to learn that amount of info imo.
 
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