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Derren Brown - how he does it *spoilers

Most magicians I know or have spoken to -- no, scratch that -- all magicians that I know or have spoken to think that Derren Brown is fabulous. I am surprised that your fella has such a grudge.

sounds kinda like the attitude of my brother (who writes teenage fiction) towards that Rowling woman - 'no, she isn't any good, her plotting is terrible. No, I'm not jealous of her in any way shape or from.'
 
Where did he get the info from? There was a disclaimer about no contact before the show and, additionally, a bit fortunate that the frisbees hit the people he had memorised ain't it?

Especially as he had a bandage on his head too. :D
 
I also think he is great for the way he goes out of his way to completely debunk mystics and psychics who are a pox on the world and long overdue a severe arsekicking and imprisonment for fraud.
 
Then how come he isn't famous then??
How do you know he isn't famous?

But I did ask him that and got muttered at too :D As far as I can make out his gripe is that Derren Brown is not a better magician than a lot of the ones currently on the scene, he is just far better 'packaged'. Also Derren originally was a magician (his first book on magic was recalled and is hugely valuable because of this) and then vanished (in a puff of smoke no doubt) before reappearing as a spooky super cool mind reader and this has gotten up a few old school type magician noses.

*ETA* And he's jealous of course :) I don't think it helped that they have met several times and Derren came across as quite arrogant. I've never met him so can't comment on that.
 
Yeah, me too. He is my hero for that, if nothing else.

That is what I use to win people round to him and it usually works. Dunno why I am so bothered but it annoys me that people associate him with people like Blaine etc. when is completely different.
 
As far as I can make out his gripe is that Derren Brown is not a better magician than a lot of the ones currently on the scene, he is just far better 'packaged'. Also Derren originally was a magician (his first book on magic was recalled and is hugely valuable because of this) and then vanished (in a puff of smoke no doubt) before reappearing as a spooky super cool mind reader and this has gotten up a few old school type magician noses.

This is precisely why the magicians I know like him, though. He's found a fab new way of presenting the same old rubbish. And he's made magic popular again as a consequence. Most magicians would take the view that anything that increases the appeal of the Art is, on balance, a good thing.
 
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I like it.

(The mundane explanation is that I know four people that indulge in magic. Some of them take it seriously and some of them are proper friends, hence my flippant arithmetic)
 
sounds kinda like the attitude of my brother (who writes teenage fiction) towards that Rowling woman - 'no, she isn'y any good, her plotting terrible. No, I'm not jealous of her in any way shape or from.'

To be fair, he has a point about Rowling.
 
Well, quite.

How would he know someone had just dyed their hair or that they were thinking about going to live in America? :confused:
He's quite brilliant. The people who amuse me are the ones who say "It's just a trick, you know" Of course it's a fecking trick, but it's a good one.
 
How do you know he isn't famous?

But I did ask him that and got muttered at too :D As far as I can make out his gripe is that Derren Brown is not a better magician than a lot of the ones currently on the scene, he is just far better 'packaged'. Also Derren originally was a magician (his first book on magic was recalled and is hugely valuable because of this) and then vanished (in a puff of smoke no doubt) before reappearing as a spooky super cool mind reader and this has gotten up a few old school type magician noses.

*ETA* And he's jealous of course :)

The greatness with Derren is that he's not JUST a magician, but a Great showman, a hypnotist, tell reader, etc etc
 
The greatness with Derren is that he's not JUST a magician, but a Great showman, a hypnotist, tell reader, etc etc

I don't disagree with you. It was a bit like learning there is no santa claus, having the way its all done explained to you. Eye opening but my inner child cried :)
 
I always think the russian roulette thing was a great example of him being such an amazing showman.

The trick was pretty simple for him, just influance someone enough to make them choose the first barrell.

but it's the way he drew it out, the suspense, the fact he made (on purpose) the mistake of firing shot 5.

then left it for ages before quickly firing 6 against his head and 1 into the sandbag.

genius showmanship
 
Blaines not fit to tie D Browns boots!

even though I'm a bit of a blaine fan there is simply no contest!
Blaine just seems to do the boring endurance stuff these days. Who finds that interesting? But while his actual magic was pretty good at times, he isn't likeable or engaging enough for me to care. I think think "OK. What else you got?"
 
David Blaine scares me. I've no idea why, he just really creeps me out. I have to turn the tv off if he comes on it. Which is really odd because I find magic absolutley fascinating and would love to be able to watch him.
 
Have any religious people tried to kill him yet, since his existence surely is proof that religion is all balls?
 
Well, quite.

How would he know someone had just dyed their hair or that they were thinking about going to live in America? :confused:


I thought the bit where he had the blindfold on was when he was shouting out names and ages: "Is there a 46 year old called Andy" etc.

It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of those people booked with credit cards giving access to their personal details and the ones whose names/ages were called out had social networking sites with plenty of available information about them...

Just one theory anyway.
 
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