Deport sucide bombers' families?

[Pigeon]

Some do it partly to make families proud, maybe theyd reconsider?

How do you know this? Are you omnipotent?

 

[Epicurus]

How do you know what difference its made ? are you omnipotent ?.

Precision punishemnt is always best. But not always that easy is it.
A lot of Geramns were killed in WW2 who didnt support Hitler etc..

Well as the number of suicide bomb attacks doesn’t seem to have decreased at all, I’d say that is a fairly good indication.

When you say "Precision punishment is always best" what do you mean and do you think deporting bombers families is a good idea and do you think it would work?

 

[nino_savatte]

Suicide bombers may not care for their own lives... but even they still love their families. If the first response to the suicide bombers' attack is to deport their families -- down to the most distant relatives -- the next confused, disaffected, easily-manipulated teenagers coming down the suicide bomber assembly line might give second thought to their ghoulish plans.

It's not fair, but it would work.

Thank you and good night!

 

[tbaldwin]

Well as the number of suicide bomb attacks doesn’t seem to have decreased at all, I’d say that is a fairly good indication.

When you say "Precision punishment is always best" what do you mean and do you think deporting bombers families is a good idea and do you think it would work?

1 I wouldnt ive got no idea whether its worked to be honest,its purely guess work.

2 Well innocent people are always caught up in any major conflict. If we could arrange for Osama to fight it out alone with GWB it would be good but life is not like that.
I have no idea whether deporting their families would work.

 

[Epicurus]

1 I wouldnt ive got no idea whether its worked to be honest,its purely guess work.

2 Well innocent people are always caught up in any major conflict. If we could arrange for Osama to fight it out alone with GWB it would be good but life is not like that.
I have no idea whether deporting their families would work.

So are you saying that the number of bombing not going down doesn’t show it has had little or no effect?

 

[Ryazan]

Bloomin heck.

I got banned for a "shit" thread recently, and this pile of shite is still rolling on through this board. Get rid.

 

[Passepartout]

Bloomin heck.

I got banned for a "shit" thread recently, and this pile of shite is still rolling on through this board. Get rid.

do you always support banning ideas that offend you?

 

[jodal]

72 virgins, I bet! These zionist screwballs will believe anything....

I bet if we deported the 72 virgins from heaven they would stop! They'd be like "wooohooo, we are in heaven. Yeah baby, bring in the virgins. Uuuuuh, where is everyone?"

 

[tbaldwin]

So are you saying that the number of bombing not going down doesn’t show it has had little or no effect?

correct.

 

[Pigeon]

do you always support banning ideas that offend you?

Surely you're not having a go at someone for making intolerant suggestions?!

Oh, the ironing!

 

[tbaldwin]

Possibly he did this experiment: "Has demolishing the homes of suicide bombers' families eradicated the phenomenon of suicide bombing?"

The question is whether its made any difference and that none of us know. We all know however it has not eradicated it.

 

[Pigeon]

correct.

If you chucked petrol on a fire expecting to put it out, the fact that it accelerated the blaze would hardly demostrate your action to have "little or no effect", surely?

 

[tbaldwin]

If you chucked petrol on a fire expecting to put it out, the fact that it accelerated the blaze would hardly demostrate your action to have "little or no effect", surely?

What a clever analogy. Your logical thinking has got me baffled.

 

[Pigeon]

Your logical thinking has got me baffled.

A far from novel experience, surely?

By the way, I'm still waiting for you to enlighten me with your insights into the "fact" that suicide bombers do it for their dear old mums and dads....

 

[tbaldwin]

Pigeon the analogy is really shit mate, sorry but it just is.

 

[tbaldwin]

By the way, I'm still waiting for you to enlighten me with your insights into the "fact" that suicide bombers do it for their dear old mums and dads....

Did i say that or are you working with a calculator with run away batteries?.

 

[fanta]

Suicide bombers may not care for their own lives... but even they still love their families. If the first response to the suicide bombers' attack is to deport their families -- down to the most distant relatives -- the next confused, disaffected, easily-manipulated teenagers coming down the suicide bomber assembly line might give second thought to their ghoulish plans.

It's not fair, but it would work.

It is quite a brilliant idea, but, sadly, I think you're being far to altruistic to be honest, Passepartout!

Rather than just deport their families to Where-Ever-Stan can't we firstly make all wear a sign to make them stand out - say a yellow crescent for example?!

That would be really intelligent, important and helpful!

After that we could legally confiscate all their property; bar them from entering certain professions, forbid any marriages and unions with Muslims non-Muslims, and then eventually simply arrange for them to be relocated to 'labour camps' - say in rural Poland - by deporting them there on trains?

Once there they could be de-loused in mass showers, have their heads shaved for their own good and set to honest hard work like breaking rocks, sorting out gold dentures, shoes and spectacles, as well as digging mass graves in the healthy fresh air!

What could be fucking better than that?!

God knows they'd probably jump at the chance, and anyway, I'm sure somebody somewhere set a precedent for this in Europe in the not too distant past...?

And fuck knows these ungrateful bastards would hopefully be grateful for this great kindness on our part - after all Arbeit Macht Frei Passepartout, doesn't it?!

Whatever happens, how refreshing it is to see that we as a country are not jumping to rash, intemperate and asinine knee-jerk reactions to the recent atrocities...

 

[cats hammers]

Did i say that or are you working with a calculator with run away batteries?.

Some do it partly to make families proud, maybe theyd reconsider?

.

 

[tbaldwin]

The key word is partly.

 

[Pigeon]

Pigeon the analogy is really shit mate, sorry but it just is.

"It just is".

The Voice of Reason has spoken.

 

[Pigeon]

The key word is partly.

And you know this because...what? It just is?

 

[tbaldwin]

"It just is".

The Voice of Reason has spoken.

Pigeon we all know pouring petrol on fires is not a great idea. But none of us really know for sure what would happen if the israelis or whoever didnt retaliate in the way they do.
People who are so sure of themselves are very very sad.

 

[WouldBe]

I was serious, and nobody has explained why it *wouldn't* work other than hurling hyperbole.

It all depends what the suicide bombers ideology is.

If they believe the west is corrupting the local muslim population and the best place for muslims would be in a wholly / majority muslim country then the bombers could see their family being deported as a good thing and could lead to a rise in suicide bombers.

 

[Ryazan]

do you always support banning ideas that offend you?

I think it would offend most people (what you propose).

 

[Pigeon]

Pigeon we all know pouring petrol on fires is not a great idea. But none of us really know for sure what would happen if the israelis or whoever didnt retaliate in the way they do.
People who are so sure of themselves are very very sad.

You seriously don't know if it's likely the Palestinian population as whole gets pissed off by the Israeli army "retaliating" against Palestinian agression ( ) by bulldozing entire fucking streets?

 

[tbaldwin]

You seriously don't know if it's likely the Palestinian population as whole gets pissed off by the Israeli army "retaliating" against Palestinian agression ( ) by bulldozing entire fucking streets?

The palestinian popn as a whole, phew..
That though is not the arguement it is whether the actions lead to more attacks or less. Me ive got no idea.

 

[audiotech]

That is quite possibly the dumbest idea I've heard in ages. Why not deport everyone whilst we're at it?

I'm up for deportation to the Bahamas.

 

[redsquirrel]

Pigeon we all know pouring petrol on fires is not a great idea. But none of us really know for sure what would happen if the israelis or whoever didnt retaliate in the way they do.
People who are so sure of themselves are very very sad.

But that isn't true is it. People can, and have, looked at what affect collective punishment has had in Israel.

EDIT randoms previous post in reply to you

Because numerous organisations, including Israeli human rights organisations, have shown how the politics of collective punishment have immiserated masses of people, allways with the reason of increasing security. Do you have any reason to say that the policies have worked? You seem pretty fond of shooting your mouth off without evidence, so please be less snappy when other peoplestate opinions that do have reasonable backing.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Suicide bombers may not care for their own lives... but even they still love their families. If the first response to the suicide bombers' attack is to deport their families -- down to the most distant relatives -- the next confused, disaffected, easily-manipulated teenagers coming down the suicide bomber assembly line might give second thought to their ghoulish plans.

It's not fair, but it would work.

what a great idea then why don't we get all the brown ones and stick them on a boat then after that all the yellow ones and then all them polski ones and the ruski ones the fucking micks the gooks the nips the chinkies ...

(do stop me at any point if you can see anythign which might be approaching a big pile of racist bollocks maserading itself as any kind of informed comment)

i have a better idea post your address up you fucking coward and we'll send the crew round to victimise you batter you threaten your fam and friends and see how very much in a real working sense your idea might work...

 

[tbaldwin]

But that isn't true is it. People can, and have, looked at what affect collective punishment has had in Israel.

And they are 100% sure of what could have happened are they..Pathetic...