Department of Homeland Security expected to ban laptops on all U.S.-bound flights from Europe

Discussion in 'New York/US' started by editor, May 10, 2017.

  1. editor

    editor hiraethified

    If this happens it's going to make travelling to the US a whole lot more boring and a lot less productive.

    Report: Department of Homeland Security to ban laptops on all U.S.-bound flights from Europe
  2. weltweit

    weltweit Well-Known Member

    Ban them from travelling with? or from having them in the cabin?
  3. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Same as the other ban: you can't have them in the cabin but they can go in the hold where bombs do far less damage.
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  4. 2hats


    Great news for Air Canada!
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  5. weltweit

    weltweit Well-Known Member

    It does not make me feel any safer about flights, a lappy could still be a bomb in the hold.
  6. editor

    editor hiraethified

    It's explained here:
  7. pogofish

    pogofish Testicle Hairstyle

    Now might be a good time to crowdfund that old transatlantic liner - Bring your lappy, fags, booze, lock the kids in the hold (creche!) and amuse yourself with all the pastimes denied to miserable air-travellers! :D
  8. pseudonarcissus

    pseudonarcissus fluttering and dancing

    one can be cynical...European, and particularly UAE airliens make a greater proportion of profits from business class passengers than US airlines. Businesss people justify flying up front so they can work on long flights. Ban work on flighs and you "level" the field for American Airlines
  9. 2hats


    Not really…
    Source: BALPA

    A meeting of EU and US officials on this matter is due shortly. If there is a genuine risk (and it’s not part of some political/economic game) then logically there will be a blanket ban for all flights, to/from everywhere, international and domestic.
    Last edited: May 16, 2017
  10. 1%er

    1%er Well-Known Member

    There could also be a problem with insurance, so it is worth reading any insurance policy carefully. As many policy's do not cover high value items, things like Cameras, computers etc in "checked in" baggage and many airlines payout a pittance if your baggage is lost or stolen.

    There are also question regarding the security of the information kept on your computer, while this will not effect everyone, it will be will be a big issue for others. When I was working my work laptop had encryption but even so, I wouldn't ever have put it in my checked-in baggage.
  11. 2hats


    The EU(EC)/US (Dept. Homeland Security) meeting is expected later today with an expansion of the ban to European airports, and perhaps more, to follow shortly thereafter.
  12. editor

    editor hiraethified

    If they can supposedly fit bombs into laptops, then they could do it in large cameras too. Soon we'll be travelling in underpants.
  13. 2hats


  14. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist slowtime

    could get a lot of semtex under a foreskin. Circumcised travellers only
  15. 2hats


    Outcome of the US/EU meeting reported as a decision not to ban laptops/tablets/PEDs from the cabins of European to US flights. Officials said "other measures were still being considered”.

    e2a: apparently the DHS is still considering expanding the restrictions to Europe originating flights but no announcement is expected until at least after the G7 meeting in late May and if they do so several weeks notice will be provided. The EC have no plans for any similar restrictions in the opposite direction.
    Last edited: May 19, 2017
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  16. 2hats


    A follow-up meeting is due today in Washington and a further one at/immediately after the G7 meeting in a couple of days. The speculation (airlines have been advised to prepare contingency plans) is that an extension of the ban will follow, the timing and extent of which is down to some political horse trading. Whether it eventually covers more electronic devices may be down to to what degree and/or whether additional and more extensive security screening procedures can be adopted.
  17. Poi E

    Poi E Well-Known Member

    Flew here to Colorado on Monday and no issues with laptops.
  18. 2hats


    Enhanced screening announced for all flights (over 2000) heading to the US (from some 280 airports). A ban on electronic devices in the cabin isn’t being instituted at this time but may be at a later date depending on developments. Airlines/authorities failing to enact the enhanced screening within a certain timeframe (something like 120 days) will have to ban electronics form the cabin or flights will be suspended.

    Enhanced screening includes enhancing overall passenger screening; conducting heightened screening of personal electronic devices; increasing security protocols around aircraft and in passenger areas; and deploying advanced technology, expanding canine screening, and establishing additional preclearance locations.

    European airports/carriers will begin implementing the new procedures within the next three weeks, starting with explosive trace detection screening, and may eventually apply them to all flights departing the EU, not just those heading to the US.

    If the 10 airports covered by the original US ban implement the new enhanced procedures to the required level they may be permitted to allow passengers to carry electronics in the cabin again.
  19. stuff_it

    stuff_it stirred the primordial soup

    So did this happen or what? I'm flying out to the US next month.
  20. 2hats


    The US lifted the ban in July 2017 following the implementation of enhanced screening procedures for electronic devices. Always smart to check with your specific airline though before travel and not assume.

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