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Silva

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So, there are five events pipelined for demonstration in time for the 2016 Olympics - Squash, Golf, Karate, Roller Sports and Sevens. Squash and Karate failed to get the two-thirds of votes required to be included in 2012, and will fight for a spot with Baseball and softball (which strikes me as a bit weird - why two distinct sports that look and play almost in the same way?).

Squash seems a fair contender, but it's terrible on TV - I remember the state channels trying to broadcast tournaments around here, and all I saw were two guys with racquets swinging at air (the cameras were also rubbish, 'to). Roller sports are a bit underground (most speed skaters eventually follow to the Winter Olympic variations), but I'd love to see Rollerball in the Olympics. Gold Medal match with no time limit, penalties or substitutions and all that :D Karate would lead to too many Hollywood film jokes, and there's enough martial arts and fighting events as it is. Sevens look interesting - rugby is a huge sport, and unlike football, the UK team wouldn't be a problem - just field the British Lions (sans Ireland) and be done with it. Golf is a bit... I don't know. It's not one of those sports I see as Olympic, such as chess.

Opinions. Any of those five should be included, or any others?
 

ScallyWag II

New Member
Sevens definitely would be good imo. Roller sports too. Golf not, like tennis, the olympics is not going to be the pinnacle of a golfer's career, so on that basis, i'd like to see both excluded. Can't see a reason for either squash or karate being excluded.
 

JTG

Angry about not being able to be an astronaut.
The more sports the better. As many as the host city can reasonably manage to include on the programme
 

Dr. Furface

One small step for man
Golf not, like tennis, the olympics is not going to be the pinnacle of a golfer's career, so on that basis, i'd like to see both excluded.
Agreed - if they want to bring the pro's in, but if it was only open to amateurs then I think golf should be included. There are some really good amateurs around (many of whom will turn pro sooner or later) and it would be the sort of event where the winner really could come from anywhere. The best reason why golf should be included is that, more than any other sport, it fulfils the Olympic ideals of sportsmanship and fair play - and you don't need judges to decide the winner either* I'm sure it would be very popular with spectators too.

*personally I'd get rid of all the sports that are decided by judges - gymnastics, diving, boxing, the lot of 'em!
 

felixthecat

are we there yet?
Sevens definitely.
Squash probably.
Karate maybe.
Roller Sports probably not
Golf - dear god NO!:eek::eek::eek:

I've wondered about cricket - it would have to be the 20/20 format to fit in I suppose. Ok, so thats not 'real' cricket, but I reckon it would get a lot of viewers and who knows, maybe get people interested in the game who otherwise wouldn't have bothered. Its a bloody site more exciting that baseball/softball.:rolleyes:
 

Dirty Martini

gets what he cant want
If badminton and table tennis are in, then squash should be too. Get rid of tennis, no one gives a toss. Definitely no golf, sevens or 20/20 cricket.

Bring back tug-o-war and the standing jump, and introduce 'brawling' for the London Games (venue: pubs).
 

London_Calling

Pleasant and unpatronising
Where's cricket nowadays - I take it it's not a demonstration sport in 2012 if Lords is being used for Archery?

Having said that, it might make fielding more interesting . . .
 

Dirty Martini

gets what he cant want
Would we have a womens event? What about pairs brawling, as opposed to a team or individual effort? What about weight divisions?

Oh and synchronised brawling ftw:cool:
It could be done using the same categories as rowing -- single, pairs, etc., right up to the Eights, plus cox (i.e. the pint-sized loudmouth who starts it all off but doesn't actually throw a punch).
 

toblerone3

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What exactly makes a sport an Olympic sport or not? How about Darts, Test Match cricket, Formula One and Snooker as Olympic sports?
 

CyberRose

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There are only 10 official members of the international cricket thing, the rest are all affiliates, and as there needs to be 75 countries playing a sport for it to be included in the olympics, I'm not sure cricket meets the criteria
 

Silva

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What exactly makes a sport an Olympic sport or not? How about Darts, Test Match cricket, Formula One and Snooker as Olympic sports?
Being played competitively in a fair number of IOC members (75 spread over 4 continents, I think) and having a worldwide federation that adheres to the Olympic Charter for being recognized by the IOC. To be part of the Olympic Games, they need to be voted in the Olympic congress sessions, having to achieve two-thirds of votes.
 

toblerone3

Grrrrr
Being played competitively in a fair number of IOC members (75 spread over 4 continents, I think) and having a worldwide federation that adheres to the Olympic Charter for being recognized by the IOC. To be part of the Olympic Games, they need to be voted in the Olympic congress sessions, having to achieve two-thirds of votes.
Its surprising that synchronised team swimming is practised competitively in 75 countries!. These are bureaucratic hurdles which a sport must fulfil to be in the Olympics. Some people on this thread have been saying things like 'doesn't feel like an Olympic sport'. But feelings don't really come into it.
 

London_Calling

Pleasant and unpatronising
I suppose the thing is you get 4 girls splashing around in a borrowed pool and you can call yourself a national synchronised swimming federation. With team sports like cricket, you need serious infrastructure and leagues and shit. And people to show you how to play.
 

felixthecat

are we there yet?
There are only 10 official members of the international cricket thing, the rest are all affiliates, and as there needs to be 75 countries playing a sport for it to be included in the olympics, I'm not sure cricket meets the criteria
How does baseball make the criteria and cricket doesn't? Beach volleyball for goodness sake? :confused:

This olympic mallarkey is unfathomable.
 

Silva

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Its surprising that synchronised team swimming is practised competitively in 75 countries!. These are bureaucratic hurdles which a sport must fulfil to be in the Olympics. Some people on this thread have been saying things like 'doesn't feel like an Olympic sport'. But feelings don't really come into it.
As it is a women's only sport, the required number of countries decreases to 50, I think. FINA is to blame, so is the IOC - they give the later a number of slots, and they fill them as they please. And as they can't probably add more swimming events, they stick that in. I'd rather have more track cycling than that (even if the water boys always get the better-looking stage :mad:), and I'm to see what they'll find to fill the Soft/Baseball spots in 2012.

However, being played "competitively" doesn't mean that much. An organized tournament between two teams with a cheap glass vase with an inscription as a trophy is probably close enough to count.
 

JTG

Angry about not being able to be an astronaut.
ICC full members:

England & Wales
Australia
New Zealand
India
Bangladesh
Pakistan
Sri Lanka
South Africa
Zimbabwe
West Indies (multiple countries - Jamaica, T&T, Barbados, Antigua & Barbuda, St Kitts & Nevis, Guyana and some others I've probably missed out)

Associate members:
Argentina
Belgium
Bermuda
Botswana
Canada
Cayman Islands
Denmark
Fiji
France
Germany
Gibraltar
Guernsey
Hong Kong
Ireland
Israel
Italy
Japan
Jersey
Kenya
Kuwait
Malaysia
Namibia
Nepal
Netherlands
Nigeria
PNG
Scotland
Singapore
Tanzania
Thailand
Uganda
UAE
USA
Zambia

ICC Affiliates
Afghanistan
Austria
Bahamas
Bahrain
Belize
Bhutan
Brazil
Brunei
Bulgaria
Cameroon
Chile
China
Cook Islands
Costa Rica
Croatia
Cuba
Cyprus
Czech Rep
Estonia
Falkland Islands
Finland
Gambia
Ghana
Greece
Indonesia
Isle of Man
Iran
South Korea
Lesotho
Luxembourg
Malawi
Maldives
Malta
Mexico
Morocco
Mozambique
Norway
Oman
Panama
Peru
Philippines
Portugal
Rwanda
Qatar
Samoa
Saudi Arabia
Sierra Leone
Spain
Suriname
St Helena
Swaziland
Sweden
Switzerland
Tonga
Turkey
Turks & Caicos
Vanuatu

I think that's plenty enough. Can haz Olympic status plz?
 

CyberRose

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Yet affiliates do count.
No idea, I'm just guessing

If they do count, then cricket can be an olympic sport, I assumed they don't count as assume only the 10 full members make decisions at the ICC unlike volley ball where I assume all members are equal
 

CyberRose

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But BEACH volleyball? Can we have 5-aside beach football then?
Beach volley ball comes under the same federation as normal volley ball

Beach football was only codified in 1992, which would explain its absence, but as it is organised by FIFA, with all its members, it can be an olympic sport
 

felixthecat

are we there yet?
Beach volley ball comes under the same federation as normal volley ball

Beach football was only codified in 1992, which would explain its absence, but as it is organised by FIFA, with all its members, it can be an olympic sport
Yay - be better than the proper stuff I reckon!

*starts a campaign to get rid of proper football and introduce the beach version into the Olympics*:cool:
 
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