Bob_the_lost
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17" has to be hunched over?
Hell you can get the same hardware and buy a seperate screen and keyboard. That way you really do have an all purpose machine.
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Hell you can get the same hardware and buy a seperate screen and keyboard. That way you really do have an all purpose machine.
revol68
what, fucking what?
yeah but once you add a keyboard, mouse and monitor to it it loses it's compactness, afterall they will require a desk and any desk capable of fitting an adult is going to be far bigger than any pc case.
The only thing it could work as is a media pc connected to a nice HD tv but it's shit CPU and intergrated gfx mean it's not even up to that job and again a nice wee laptop plugged in would work much better.
Bob_the_lost
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It's not that bad, it'd make a lovely little web box, it is prettier than most machines, it will probably be quieter, it won't dump tens of watts of heat into the room while it sits there. It's something you can have in a living room running 24/7 for anyone to use if they need it or want to play back low spec video. Or if you shell out for a fancier CPU then you get something that can manage high def footage. It's just crap value for money, if you've the money to spare that's not a problem.
It would depend on the config, but I'd say a Dual Core is fine...
Guess what the vast majority of PC's are used for...? At work and at home...?
Who says you have to put it out of sight...? Perhaps someones home is too small...? And since it is small, it can be put nearly anywhere...
Hats off to you for your continual point avoidance, anyone else would probably realise that since small factor PCs in attractive cases are becoming popular, and have already had at least one successful product, this one might just work...
revol68
what, fucking what?
yeah but if you have tonnes of money wouldn't it be better to buy a pretty little laptop (or mac) and a new ornament rather than that overly styled 'aspirational lifestyle apartment' shit, afterall even if you like it's looks you'll still need a keyboard, mouse and monitor and desk to sit with it.
Bob_the_lost
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Like the one it ships with at entry level? The single core one.
The cheapest dual core 2 option is at £485, which is enough for some high def stuff.What computers are used for and what they're bought for are vastly different things. Which is why i don't expect this to be taking a large fraction of the market.
The mac mini are mostly popular as second machines, i'll stake money on the number of people who've bought mac minis as the sole machine are going to be fairly small. It's not seen as fit for purpose as a single use machine. This will get the same treatment, although since it's windows it'll be more palatable than the mini. If you remember i was commenting on why students aren't going to snap this one up...
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
They look lovely to me.
Starting at $499, these little fellas look great and pack Intel Pentium Dual Core and Core 2 Duo CPUs, and 2.5-inch, 5400 RPM notebook hard drives (160GB, 250GB, and 320GB capacities), HDMI/DVIs port, 8X dual-layer DVD burner, Firewall, SP/DIF, 3x USB, with options for WiFi, a wireless keyboard and mouse, Blu-ray and a TV tuner.
Nice.
http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/007354.html
That woodgrain-effect case wouldn't look out of place in a "hip" 1960s setting.
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hiraethified
Whoops! There goes the price advantage!17" has to be hunched over?
Here's what one analyst thinks of the Hybrid:
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
My desktop machine is held together by gravity and the power of positive thinking
Do you put it on top of, or underneath the case?
Do we have stats with that then...? My reading of Mac forums is that there are lot of Minis being used as a sole computer. And then there are a lot that are being used in a variety of different ways, many people being a lot more imaginative then you seem to be...
Yaaay... Mac vs Windows Bun fight...!
revol68
what, fucking what?
eh no, considering you'll need to buy yourself a monitor, and that the shitty celeron based one starts at £408 including postage I think it's not too hard to find a more powerful 17inch laptop at a better price.
it's a gimmicky piece of 'lifestyle' electronics that falls bang between a decent desktop and laptop.
Bob_the_lost
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http://configure.euro.dell.com/dell...=NRS17351&l=en&oc=N0773501&rbc=N0773501&s=dhs
£469 for Dual core, 17" LCD laptop 2gig RAM.
http://configure.euro.dell.com/dell...kc=DRS1G001&l=en&oc=D081G01&rbc=D081G01&s=dhs
£454 for Dual core, no monitor and 2 Gig RAM.
You're right, a 17" laptop is £15 more expensive than a desktop with no monitor, hell the battery is worth that.
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hiraethified
Because - of course! - your personal opinion reflects that of all consumers, everywhere.
It may comes as a shock to you, but some people like attractive, compact 'lifestyle' products that do the job just fine and are quite happy to pay a small premium for them.
Which do you prefer to work on all day, Bob? A laptop or a desktop PC?
Crispy
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I thought it wasn't about personal preference?
The fact of the matter is - this thing isn't cheap for what you get. There are other compact desktops that are cheaper. You're paying a premium for the design. A laptop can be cheaper too, and that's far more flexible, especially for students.
Bob_the_lost
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Would you rather have a laptop plugged into a monitor and keyboard combo or a box that can't be moved about plugged into the same combo?
It would depend on what task was being performed, and for how long. And whether that task would re-occur in the future... It would also depend on who was doing it...
revol68
what, fucking what?
exactly it's pretty much the worst of both desktop and laptop worlds but in overly stylised case.
If was really into the appearance/lifestyle over value I'd just go and buy myself a Macbook and would atleast be able to use it on the sofa or travelling rather than paying over the odds for something that looks like an overly preened external hardrive and whose compactness becomes a farce when it needs to be beside a 17 inch monitor.
revol68
what, fucking what?
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
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hiraethified
Err..hello? Where have I ever claimed that the Dell represents better value compared to less stylish alternatives?
Nowhere, that's where!
Personally, I use both thanks and always prefer to use my desktop at home rather than faffing about connecting/disconnecting monitors, USB peripherals, monitors, printers etc etc every time I take my laptop out.
But - hey! - that's just me and some people are happy using a laptop for everything, while others are just as happy having a desktop PC at home/in the office. And I imagine some of those will find the Dell a very attractive option.
What are you typing on now, btw?
Bob_the_lost
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I'm using my desktop running so many apps that that dinky little toy would fall over and twitch. It's not the computer for me, course it's not. Just as i wouldn't be trying to do this on a laptop. Would you use it?
It's a niche product, because they're charging well over the odds and the usefulness of it is limited, it's a laptop without the ability to pick it up and move it about. You still think that students would buy this thing before they bought a laptop? I say not only that they wouldn't but that they'd be rather silly to do so at those prices.
It's a niche product, because they're charging well over the odds and the usefulness of it is limited, it's a laptop without the ability to pick it up and move it about. You still think that students would buy this thing before they bought a laptop? I say not only that they wouldn't but that they'd be rather silly to do so at those prices.
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hiraethified
I'd buy it for my Mum, certainly.
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