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This is, in all seriousness, next door to our new place:

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and is of course no way misrepresentitive of Penge ;)
 
Both north and south London have a semi-circle of multi-racial, multi-cultural areas.

In the south, running from Brixton through Camberwell, Peckham, Brockley as far as Deptford. If you go south of that it loses its cultural diversity and turns very white and mostly horrible, not feeling like London at all.

In the north, the areas north of the multi-cultural semi-circle tend to be much richer.

I am generalising hugely, but if you look at a map, it's definitely there.

I think you can extend that a bit further south tbh. That line would exclude Lewisham, Kidbrooke and Catford, also Woolwich, Plumstead and Thamesmead

Interesting though.

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In the south, running from Brixton through Camberwell, Peckham, Brockley as far as Deptford. If you go south of that it loses its cultural diversity and turns very white and mostly horrible, not feeling like London at all.

Only just read this properly; what tosh! Streatham, Tulse Hill, Crystal Palace, Sydenham are all as culturally diverse as the places you list.
 
Richmond would be right up there in the list of places I would never want to live. Full of 30-something Hyacinth Buckets desperately clinging to their delusions of being 'fab'.

Do any of you lot actually know anyone from Richmond? I suspect not. I wish it was full of thirty something Hyacinth Bucket types, at least they're quite amusing. In truth, Richmond is quite a strange place to live. It's incredibly beautiful, the hill is full of the super rich, but they're a lot older than thirty, which accounts for it's lack of decent nightlife.

Apart from the hill, the rest of Richmond is fairly average. I live on a small council estate, there's quite a few in Richmond, but no real tower blocks.

You will find the pubs cater mainly for the rugby types, and most of those don't actually come from Richmond. It's a running joke that nobody from Richmond drinks in Richmond, and who can blame them? It's pretty bland, and a few salad leaves served in a washing up bowl will usually set you back a tenner.

I like living in Richmond, it's safe and very pretty, but like everyone else here under 50 I go into town if I want a night out.

All jokes aside though, I was shocked by SE London. There's lot's of poor parts of London but they usually have some interesting bits with some saving graces.

The whole area seemed to be coated in a thin layer of dirt, and a sense of depression seemed to hang in the air. It looked like everyone had just given up. As for Thamesmead, the only sensible thing to do with that place would be covering it in petrol and chucking a lighted match on it.:eek:
 
Only just read this properly; what tosh! Streatham, Tulse Hill, Crystal Palace, Sydenham are all as culturally diverse as the places you list.

Yes they are. But Eltham, Bromley, Beckenham are not.


It is only a tendency - Most of Bermondsey, despite being central, is very white.
 
I've lived in both TW and SE postcode areas, and much prefer the latter. Richmond has got the river and some nice parkland, but it's pretty soulless. SE has also got some nice green areas, particularly around Crystal Palace, Forest Hill etc. It's also got Morley's.
 
All jokes aside though, I was shocked by SE London. There's lot's of poor parts of London but they usually have some interesting bits with some saving graces.

The whole area seemed to be coated in a thin layer of dirt, and a sense of depression seemed to hang in the air. It looked like everyone had just given up. As for Thamesmead, the only sensible thing to do with that place would be covering it in petrol and chucking a lighted match on it.:eek:


Fuck you and your shitty attitude
 
Erith's a funny one isn't it shells (in answer to your q) ? Starts at Thamesmead, some of the Thamesmead postal addresses are yer actual Eriffth. Then all that Industrial Estate before Erith proper. Since they built the lower road, transportation's better so more people moving out that way. Gets a lot posher toward Belvedere :D
 
Of course, we have to defend the finest slice of life on the planet from deluded snobs, and there's a lot of them, even from within the S ranks, let alone the dirty fuckers from North of the river :eek:

Shut your dirty gob! :eek:

As for your picture, Mr El Jefe, I cant see it cos I'm at work, but it better be something nice! :mad:
 
All jokes aside though, I was shocked by SE London. There's lot's of poor parts of London but they usually have some interesting bits with some saving graces.

The whole area seemed to be coated in a thin layer of dirt, and a sense of depression seemed to hang in the air. It looked like everyone had just given up. As for Thamesmead, the only sensible thing to do with that place would be covering it in petrol and chucking a lighted match on it.:eek:

When was the last time you went to Thamesmead, btw?
 
Do any of you lot actually know anyone from Richmond? I suspect not. I wish it was full of thirty something Hyacinth Bucket types, at least they're quite amusing. In truth, Richmond is quite a strange place to live. It's incredibly beautiful, the hill is full of the super rich, but they're a lot older than thirty, which accounts for it's lack of decent nightlife.

Apart from the hill, the rest of Richmond is fairly average. I live on a small council estate, there's quite a few in Richmond, but no real tower blocks.

You will find the pubs cater mainly for the rugby types, and most of those don't actually come from Richmond. It's a running joke that nobody from Richmond drinks in Richmond, and who can blame them? It's pretty bland, and a few salad leaves served in a washing up bowl will usually set you back a tenner.

I like living in Richmond, it's safe and very pretty, but like everyone else here under 50 I go into town if I want a night out.

All jokes aside though, I was shocked by SE London. There's lot's of poor parts of London but they usually have some interesting bits with some saving graces.

The whole area seemed to be coated in a thin layer of dirt, and a sense of depression seemed to hang in the air. It looked like everyone had just given up. As for Thamesmead, the only sensible thing to do with that place would be covering it in petrol and chucking a lighted match on it.:eek:



All jokes aside, go fuck yourself :)
 
When was the last time you went to Thamesmead, btw?
With the best will in the world, it can now only be described as a Barratt Home hell. Epitomises the wasted opportunity that is current planning policy - an outer-London Bermondsey in the making.
 
Erith's a funny one isn't it shells (in answer to your q) ? Starts at Thamesmead, some of the Thamesmead postal addresses are yer actual Eriffth. Then all that Industrial Estate before Erith proper. Since they built the lower road, transportation's better so more people moving out that way. Gets a lot posher toward Belvedere :D

Oooh i always liked you, i never thought i would hear anyone say Posher and Belvedere in the same sentance. I could kiss ya x

Ahh good old Erith i remember how excited everyone was when they built a drive through :D. Erith has changed hugely since i moved away.
 
With the best will in the world, it can now only be described as a Barratt Home hell. Epitomises the wasted opportunity that is current planning policy - an outer-London Bermondsey in the making.

Some of it is, the new build. I doubt even the new build will ever reach the heady heights of Bermondsey though :D

But it has changed a great deal in the past 20 years.
 
Some of it is, the new build. I doubt even the new build will ever reach the heady heights of Bermondsey though :D

But it has changed a great deal in the past 20 years.

I don't understand why nobody builds squares any more. A communal square surrounded by sturdy townhouses for families or divided into flats. It's a great way to live. I lament the current lack of ambition - few people build homes with the intention that they will still be around and desirable in 200 years. Shame.
 
Do any of you lot actually know anyone from Richmond? I suspect not.

I know a few people that grew up there, and few wankers who've moved there 'cos it's 'fabulous'.

I wish it was full of thirty something Hyacinth Bucket types, at least they're quite amusing.

It sounds like you're a 30-something Bucket type, in fairness :D 'Oh look at the poorer areas of London, disgusting!'. The fact that you managed to deduce that a quarter of London is a shithole from a single bus route speaks volumes.

All jokes aside though, I was shocked by SE London. There's lot's of poor parts of London but they usually have some interesting bits with some saving graces.

The whole area seemed to be coated in a thin layer of dirt, and a sense of depression seemed to hang in the air. It looked like everyone had just given up. As for Thamesmead, the only sensible thing to do with that place would be covering it in petrol and chucking a lighted match on it.:eek:

But you only saw less a % of SE London, how can you judge the whole place on that? It's idiotic. Do you feel the same about all non-white middle class areas?
 
Everyone getting all defensive about south-east London :D

It's fucking dire. There's no tube for starters (with the tiny exception of the currently redundant east London line) which is one of the benefits of living in the capital. I lived in Catford for a few months when I first moved to London and didn't know what I was doing. Talk about the onset of depression.

Having said that though I'm equally repelled by the hooray Henrys of Chiswick, Richmond and the such.
 
I don't understand why nobody builds squares any more. A communal square surrounded by sturdy townhouses for families or divided into flats. It's a great way to live. I lament the current lack of ambition - few people build homes with the intention that they will still be around and desirable in 200 years. Shame.

Yes, I like squares as well.

It's all about profit I guess, rather than aesthetics and social impact.
 
Everyone getting all defensive about south-east London :D

Of course, it's the best bit of the city.

There's no tube for starters (with the tiny exception of the currently redundant east London line) which is one of the benefits of living in the capital. I lived in Catford for a few months when I first moved to London and didn't know what I was doing. Talk about the onset of depression.

The lack of tube is a massive plus point for me... you don't appreciate how grim it is until you no longer have to use it. Overland every time for me, quicker and far more civilised.

As for Catford, I'm not a fan, I also find it depressing, same with a lot of SE London, but for every Catford there's a place that's as nice as Catford isn't. To write off a huge swathe of London because of singular experiences is just fucking stupid.

I wouldn't call North London a shithole 'cos of Archway, Wood Green or Turnpike Lane... I wouldn't call West London a shithole 'cos of.. well, most of it, and I wouldn't call East London a shithole 'cos of Stratford, Plaistow, West Ham, etc.
 
Two good things about Catford:

It's mentioned in the Barron Knights' version of the Smurf Song.

The big plastic cat by the shopping centre.
 
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