Death following arrest: Sean Rigg

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by Minnie_the_Minx, Aug 23, 2008.

  1. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

    8.00 p.m.
  2. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

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  3. Maharani

    Maharani Just like Heaven

    Despicable but sadly not surprising. Thanks for link...
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  4. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

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  5. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    It's 10 years now. Who was it who said "Justice delayed is justice denied"?
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  6. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

    ... Sgt Paul White's attempt to leave the Metropolitan Police Force before he can face disciplinary proceedings seems to have failed:

    Scotland Yard blocks retirement of officer over Sean Rigg death

    In addition, the Independent Office of Police Conduct (IOPC) believes the five officers involved in Mr Rigg's death should face allegations including the alleged use of excessive force and use of inappropriate restraint techniques, failing to identify and treat Mr Rigg as suffering from mental health problems and failing to protect him from harm:

    Exclusive: watchdog urges charges over death in custody
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  7. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

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  9. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Thry have been pursuing this with no help from politicians. All credit to them for persevering .
  10. GarveyLives

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  11. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    This is Kafkaesque. The Police officers ( one now a priest) now say that such a long time has passed that the hearing should be stopped as its unfair on them.

    The Police have dragged their feet over this death for years. Trying to stop the family get any kind of justice. Now those directly involved say they won't get a fair hearing?

    This is bollox.

  12. justin credible

    justin credible Well-Known Member

    I was a good friend of Sean's brother Wayne when Sean died.

    The police conduct surrounding and following the death has been appalling. There are aspects to this story that I have been told in confidence and cannot repeat here, but the whole thing stinks.

    It is Kafkaesque.

    Criminal cult leaders do this. They commit crimes and then get their lawyers to drag their legal cases out for years and then claim abuse of process / statute of limitations; just disgusting to see the police doing it. The Rigg family have suffered so much, endured so much and with great dignity. The family has also shown ingenuity and incredible resilience. They conducted their own investigation. interviewed witnesses and collected evidence that the police couldn't be bothered to collect. The lies the police told were exposed as such and yet still no justice. I hope it is a case of better late than never but I'm not holding my breath.
  13. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

    Sean Rigg custody death: Policemen fail to have misconduct case dropped (click for latest)


    PC Andrew Birks has since been ordained as a Church of England priest

    Amen !!!
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  14. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    If I were a believer at that church I would probably change to a different parish, although in his wisdom Archbishop Cranmer laid down guidance for such situations:

    26 The sacraments are not rendered ineffectual by the unworthiness of the minister
    Although in the visible church the evil are always mingled with the good and sometimes evil people possess the highest rank in the ministry of the Word and sacraments, nevertheless since they do not do these things in their own name but in Christ's and minister by his commission and authority, we may use their ministry both in hearing God's Word and in receiving the sacraments. The effect of Christ's institution is not taken away by the wickedness of these people, nor is the grace of God's gifts diminished, so long as the sacraments are received by faith and rightly. The sacraments are effectual because of Christ's institution and promise, even though they may be administered by evil men.
    Nevertheless, it belongs to the discipline of the church that investigation be made into evil ministers. Those who are accused by witnesses having knowledge of their offences and who in the end are justly found guilty, should be deposed.
    (from the 39 articles)
  15. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    I didn't know, but apparently this hearing into the conduct of the police officers involved in the death of Sean Rigg is open to members of the public to attend, subject to the conditions below:

    These conditions ban filming, photography mobile phone use - including tweeting. Also banned are laptops - except for accredited press reporters.

    Can't see that note taking is banned - so that might be OK.

    I'm not sure I would particularly fancy sitting through this hearing - which may still have three weeks to go, judging by the time set aside.

    There is a general information page on the issue here:
    Deaths in police custody

    Be interesting to know what Lambeth Council & SLAM have learnt from this case, as their (?poor?) care provision must have been one of the contributing factors.
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