DC v Marvel

[belboid]

wtf?

Batman - straightforward right-wing vigilante

Superman - DC's early dalliance with the Nazi's

Justice League (Green Arrow excepted) - might as well have called them the KKK

Admittedly, Iron Man was forged to fight the Koreans, but that turned TS into an alkie, and then a black man, so that's okay.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Spiderman was the 1st superhero to have any sort of character and with him, Marvel moved streets ahead of DC. When they created X-men it was game over.

Superman was mind-numbingly dull cos he could do anything (and how come by merely putting on a pair of glasses he became perfectly disguised as Clark Kent?), and Batman was just some rich dude slightly agonised by the murder of his parents until decades later the Dark Knight version gave him some character too.

That's ridiculous, Lance Hunt wears glasses. Captain Amazing doesn't. How could he see?

 

[kyser_soze]

Who published Watchmen? DC?

DC wins in that case.

 

[belboid]

no coincidence that everything, bar Batman, that DC has produced and is rated by people here, is -

a - written by brits

b - created only well after Marvel had kicked their arses, and made them realise that they needed to seriously up their game

 

[A Dashing Blade]

Marvel simply for Silver Surfer.

 

[DotCommunist]

Marvel is the grinning face of fascism where as DC is the morally ambiguous realism kids need to deal with life without turning into cunts

 

[Iguana]

no coincidence that everything, bar Batman, that DC has produced and is rated by people here, is -

a - written by brits

b - created only well after Marvel had kicked their arses, and made them realise that they needed to seriously up their game

For a very, very long time dc books were entirely black and white in their representations of heroes and villains. Marvel completely revolutionised that in the 60's. They changed the way comic books were written. Even as a child I found old dc books really simplistic in their views.

Sure Marvel went a bit daft for quite a while with all the clones and far too many pointless crossovers. There also seems to be a point where Chris Claremont took a severe blow to the head as evidenced by a lot of the shit he wrote from the mid-80's to the awful X-men series he wrote about 4 years ago.

They are still coming out with amazing work although as there are so many books you have to ignore quite a bit of pedestrian stories. Almost everything by Bendis is fantastic, Millar's Civil War was great, Stracyzinski had a fantastic run on Spiderman and Whedon's X-Men was occasionally brilliant as was the first year of Morrison's run.

 

[Detroit City]

Batman - straightforward right-wing vigilante

Superman - DC's early dalliance with the Nazi's

Justice League (Green Arrow excepted) - might as well have called them the KKK

Admittedly, Iron Man was forged to fight the Koreans, but that turned TS into an alkie, and then a black man, so that's okay.

i was making a joke about DC = me

 

[DotCommunist]

Ah morrison. A man of such onanistic narcissism he writes himself into his own comic

 

[DotCommunist]

Batman - straightforward right-wing vigilante

Superman - DC's early dalliance with the Nazi's

Justice League (Green Arrow excepted) - might as well have called them the KKK

Admittedly, Iron Man was forged to fight the Koreans, but that turned TS into an alkie, and then a black man, so that's okay.

the defence presents exhibit a: Red Son Superman

 

[belboid]

The prosecution brushes it aside as a very belated attempt to re-write history.

 

[Iguana]

Ah morrison. A man of such onanistic narcissism he writes himself into his own comic

He isn't the only one.

 

[kabbes]

I'd like to read some X Men comics, but I wouldn't even know where to start.

 

[belboid]

with the Bill Sienkewicz era stuff, from around number 110, iirr

 

[DotCommunist]

The prosecution brushes it aside as a very belated attempt to re-write history.

sorry the prosecution doesn't get to dismiss the validity of solid evidence. Unless you are Judge Dredd, then I submit to a headshot or 25 to life in the Cube

 

[belboid]

Solid?? Pah!

Is it cannon? Part of one of DC's many universes now? No!

 

[Random]

I'd like to read some X Men comics, but I wouldn't even know where to start.

advice to those about to read X Men. Don't

 

[ruffneck23]

all i can say , those who voted marvel , must be much younger than i .....

 

[Nigel Irritable]

Superman - DC's early dalliance with the Nazi's

Created by Jewish leftists. He was originally a New Deal lefty who went around beating up crooked politicians, slum landlords and evil businessmen.

So no.

 

[Idris2002]

Did Siegel and Shuster ever get any of the rights to their creation back?

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

I'm not sure I like either. Batman really sucks.

What are each of their very very best stories? I suppose I could check them out.

 

[100% masahiko]

DC because of their Vertigo publications (Sandman, Hellblazer etc) - it leaves Marvel feeling a little childish.

But Marvel will win this poll because it's more mainstream.

 

[SpookyFrank]

DC. Marvel have been flogging a dead horse for years now with their endless tedious iterations of the X-men and Spiderman franchises. Marvel zombies is fucking cool though.

 

[Lucan Vortex]

DC because of their Vertigo publications (Sandman, Hellblazer etc) - it leaves Marvel feeling a little childish.

But Marvel will win this poll because it's more mainstream.

Go read Ennis' Punisher Max run and say Marvel is childish

 

[killer b]

i never cared much for marvel, although i briefly collected an xmen offshoot (xfactor, i think it was called) which was pretty cool. dc pushed things forward more than marvel (in my comic buying days anyway - late 80s - early 90s)

 

[100% masahiko]

Go read Ennis' Punisher Max run and say Marvel is childish

I like Garth Ennis. He's a gifted writer - Preacher is most memorable.

His reimagining of The Punisher (with the Russian, Mouse etc) was pretty cool. Then it dragged cos they included Elektra, Spiderman into the equation.

The Max series is best for blood and gore but you have to admit, the story telling is poorly done.

 

[treefrog]

DC, for Killing Joke if nothing else.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

this seems to be less deciding which one is best and more seeing which one has published more shit


all i ever had to agrue about was my opinion that tenma is better than momohime

 

[Termite Man]

DC is better but I'm really tempted to say Marvel because if it wasn't for the complete cuntishness of that companies set up then Image Comics may never have been set up

In the early 1990s, several popular Marvel Comics illustrators grew increasingly annoyed that artwork and characters they created were being heavily merchandised, with the artists -- working as freelancers -- receiving only page rates for their work and modest royalties. They also resented a common attitude among Marvel management that the writers and artists were less important to the success of a series than the characters, and could easily be replaced. In December 1991, a group of these illustrators approached Marvel president Terry Stewart and demanded that the company give them ownership and creative control over their work

 

[Termite Man]