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Dartford v Dulwich Hamlet, National League South, Saturday 25 January, 3pm

Nivag

Well-Known Member
A performance as insipid as the walk to the ground. Don't recall their keeper making a save, whilst Grainger kept it respectable.

Can't quite get on board with the 4-4-2 in it's current guise.
Their keeper made a fumbled save in the 2nd and caught the token corner we had.

I thought it was 2 nil? They scored a late second half goal too?
Nope, 1-0 was the final score, probably felt like they should have scored more.
 

tonysingh

Random Clever and Witty Strapline
Their keeper made a fumbled save in the 2nd and caught the token corner we had.


Nope, 1-0 was the final score, probably felt like they should have scored more.

Ah. I was in the tea bar second half and heard their lot cheering. Assumed they'd scored.
 

bkbk

Well-Known Member
The walk through the park is nice, especially if you can walk past the lake
Ah I'll remember that for next time. Both times I have visited I have taken B road hell routes.

Fwiw I like the actual ground quite a lot.
 

Laurie hill

New Member
Dartford had a nice walk in the park today and I don’t really remember any dulwich player getting too upset about the time wasting
We wasted plenty of time with our indecisive throw ins
 

JoeBoy1959

Active Member
Shit performance. Passing dreadful, tackling as bad if not worse, never anywhere near winning a second ball.
Ijaha runs around like a headless chicken. Vose has no options in front of him. Chapman completely out foxed at right back and why is Barnes on the left when we have Connors on the bench?
The loanee number 9 can't hold a ball and Kearney runs around frustrated.
Something is very wrong in the dressing room and training regime.
What has gone wrong after the brief new dawn of the first two matches of the year? Was it us just flattering to deceive again?
 

Son of Roy

Tory Scumbag Apparently!
Dartford did look comfortable today. Like a lot of teams we have played they seemed to be able to ease us out of the points without doing anything spectacular. Three of their players Ming, Wanadio & Crook used to play for us and are not really superior to our players. We have played players out of position and Dartford seemed to have specialists in positions and patterns of play to create out numbering situations.
As we have commented before a number of small things can make the difference. In midfield heading the ball to a team mate rather than in the direction of the opposition goal. A bit of pushing and pulling in the challenges. At throw-ins, throw the ball to your own player (not the opposition) works well.
Today our passing wasn't very good and our forwards didn't win enough headers against committed defenders. Grainger was excellent again. Football is easy when you pass and move and is difficult when you don't.
 
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DonkeyAssessor

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Their goalscorer was clearly in an offside position, when the ball was played through to him. (I was level with it, unlike the linesman).

However let that not detract from the overall result, which was right.
 

cambelt

Well-Known Member
Shit performance. Passing dreadful, tackling as bad if not worse, never anywhere near winning a second ball.
Ijaha runs around like a headless chicken. Vose has no options in front of him. Chapman completely out foxed at right back and why is Barnes on the left when we have Connors on the bench?
The loanee number 9 can't hold a ball and Kearney runs around frustrated.
Something is very wrong in the dressing room and training regime.
What has gone wrong after the brief new dawn of the first two matches of the year? Was it us just flattering to deceive again?
Players join us, start off well and then fade away after a few games. It's almost like they're instructed not to be that good.
 
We were really awful today. Aimless long balls forward which Millings never looked like winning characterised far too much of our 'attacking' play. Our full back strategy is dictated by who can run quickly - Chapman is wasted there. Far better to have him in central midfield where unlike Vose he might actually try to run or win a tackle.

Grainger kept the score down and we really didn't seem to have a coherent plan today. Plus it took us far too long to work out that they would try to play out at goal kicks and to close down their centre backs.

Dartford are a fit, well organised side who have two big, solid centre backs and a quality striker. They have a plan and stick to it, be nice if we could
 

JoeBoy1959

Active Member
Dartford did look comfortable today. Like a lot of teams we have played they seemed to be able to ease us out of the points without doing anything spectacular. Three of their players Ming, Wanadio & Crook used to play for us and are not really superior to our players. We have played players out of position and Dartford seemed to have specialists in positions and patterns of play to create out numbering situations.
As we have commented before a number of small things can make the difference. In midfield heading the ball to a team mate rather than in the direction of the opposition goal. A bit of pushing and pulling in the challenges. At throw-ins, throw the ball to your own player's (not the opposition) works well.
Today our passing wasn't very good and our forwards didn't win enough headers against committed defenders. Grainger was excellent again. Football is easy when you pass and move and is difficult when you don't.
Disagree about Mings. He's a bloody good right back. And the fact he's no longer with us has come back to bite us on the bum
 

Son of Roy

Tory Scumbag Apparently!
Disagree about Mings. He's a bloody good right back. And the fact he's no longer with us has come back to bite us on the bum
Sanchez was a favourite of mine and I was disappointed when he wasn't in the starting 11 last season and when he left. My point is comparing the teams man for man the Dartford players are not better than ours.
 

Pink Panther

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That's the poorest performance I've seen since the Trophy exit at Hornchurch. It's very frustrating following the encouraging run of results since the turn of the year. Even the Havant defeat had positive aspects and we didn't do too much wrong in my view. The only positive yesterday is that we restricted Dartford to no further goals after they took the lead midway through the first half. The goal was particularly infuriating on a number of levels. Clunis conceded a needless free kick for offside, dawdling out on the left touchline as the defence pushed up before receiving a pass direct to his feet. This seems to be a modern trend and I just don't understand it. Are players attempting to act as a decoy by lingering in an offside position and not expecting to actually receive a pass? Then, as the keeper came out wide to take the free kick, our whole team seemed to be caught napping as he smashed it straight down the field and a striker was left in the clear to fire past a hopelessly exposed Grainger from inside the box. Apart from one attack in the first five minutes that led to a flurry of blocked chances we created almost nothing.

I feel Taylor was badly missed in the holding midfield role. Ijaha couldn't be faulted for effort and seemed to be involved all the time, but he was charging around so much I was never quite sure where he would be and I can't help thinking this puts others at risk of being exposed, particularly Vose who didn't seem to get forward much. The Taylor-Vose partnership in the centre was a big factor in the run of unbeaten matches for me. Taylor is very reliable and steady in that position, which must be a big help to others knowing he's watching their back when they push forward. All our problems seemed to come from having no real control or composure in midfield. Kearney barely seemed to touch the ball during the 45 minutes he was on the pitch while Mullings seemed to get everything wrong in what will be his last appearance unless his loan is extended.

Team (4-4-2): Grainger - Chapman, Debrah, C.Smith, Barnes - Monakana, Ijaha(c), Vose, Clunis - Kearney, Mullings. Subs: Ainsworth (for Kearney), Mils (for Mullings), Hunte (for Clunis), Connors, McCoy (not used). Attendance: 1,501

Didn’t go yesterday but did go to Welling, was Sanchez screaming, shouting and rallying his team mates like he normally does. A bit of passion never goes amiss...
I didn't especially notice that aspect, but he gave a strong performance at right back. (He was originally due to be suspended following a red card last weekend, but apparently it was rescinded.) He's become a very consistent and experienced player, having been a bit erratic in his earlier days as a winger, and I don't think there can be many better full backs in this division.
 
Shit performance. Passing dreadful, tackling as bad if not worse, never anywhere near winning a second ball.
Ijaha runs around like a headless chicken. Vose has no options in front of him. Chapman completely out foxed at right back and why is Barnes on the left when we have Connors on the bench?
The loanee number 9 can't hold a ball and Kearney runs around frustrated.
Something is very wrong in the dressing room and training regime.
What has gone wrong after the brief new dawn of the first two matches of the year? Was it us just flattering to deceive again?
We also continue to play Ainsworth and Clunis on the left which negates their play, yet the one player, Monakana, who is comfortable playing on the left, plays on the right.
All I've read here is a lot of anger and disappointment at our performance. They were very poor, played like a bunch of strangers, kept lumping the ball aimlessly up front, but a lot of people still applauded the team at the end of the game! Why? They need to know this isn't good enough from a well paid squad with the best facilities.
 

liamdhfc

Well-Known Member
Good summary as usual. These are good players but not a team and I have no idea what our pattern of play is supposed to be. We have players in all sorts of positions we didn't sign them to play in.

As somebody said yesterday 'if we're not going to win it would be nice if we tried to play some football'.

I am fully aware that the football played in the Isthmian League needed refining to be successful at a level higher, but we seem to have lost our identity in the transition and ended up being not very good at either passing or playing direct.
 

B.I.G

Well-Known Member
We also continue to play Ainsworth and Clunis on the left which negates their play, yet the one player, Monakana, who is comfortable playing on the left, plays on the right.
All I've read here is a lot of anger and disappointment at our performance. They were very poor, played like a bunch of strangers, kept lumping the ball aimlessly up front, but a lot of people still applauded the team at the end of the game! Why? They need to know this isn't good enough from a well paid squad with the best facilities.
Champion_hill FC.
 

TonyWalt

Active Member
At the final whistle, I left immediatedly. I have very rarely not applauded our team at the end of a match regardless of the score. A pretty dismal performance, with no positives that i could see, apart from another fine performance from Grainger. We are lucky to have such a fine keeper. Would be nice if he played it short occassionally though. It would show a team with confidence to pass the ball around and then take it into the opposions half, rather than just thump it forward to avoid having to play any football in the middle of the park, which is neither attractive or effective it seems. Disappointing performance after a positive start to the new year.
 

Pink Panther

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We also continue to play Ainsworth and Clunis on the left which negates their play, yet the one player, Monakana, who is comfortable playing on the left, plays on the right.
All three of them are naturally right footed, but I think Monakana is actually more effective on the left than the right. Like Ellis Green a few years ago, he can beat his man on either side and deliver with either foot. Clunis isn't half the threat on the left, all he can do is cut inside and shoot or play a square pass so we don't stretch opposing defences when he plays on the left. Our strong finish to the Chippenham game came when Clunis was brought on to play right wing and Monakana switched to the left, having played most of the game on the right with Ainsworth on the left. We started against Havant with Monakana on the right and Ainsworth on the left, but they switched midway through the first half and we looked much more effective to me.

I've never liked full backs and wingers on their "wrong" side. Presumably the aim is that they will cut inside and shoot with their stronger foot, but this rarely seems to bear fruit and Clunis has scored plenty of goals playing on the right.

Barnes hasn't really done anything wrong but I wouldn't have picked him at left back ahead of Nathan Smith, and now he's keeping Connors out of the team too. Hunte could be another option at left wing, although we've always used him as a number ten and he's never looked quite the same since that big oaf from Woking crocked him nine months ago.

Chapman has a lot of potential but this is his first full season of men's football and I'm not sure he's experienced enough for a playmaker's role at this level just yet. He's still learning at right back but generally I think he's done well there.
 
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