FridgeMagnet
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There seems to be a bit of a record of "comedy racism" though. Would a "comedy ban" be an appropriate response? Or perhaps you could explain yourself a tad further....
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nino_savatte
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warren said:
Fuckwit/dickwad/prat/plonker/pillock/wazzuck
Tecniq: So, you cannot bear to realise you are wrong? I asked you to answer how Israel could be grabbing land when it ceded all of Gaza and 15% of the "WB?" Your response is to insult and sidestep.Zzz...
Nino: I am well aware of the Crusaders and their acts. Relationships with todays Christians should not stand on that though. Since Jews have been terribly victimised in every nation on Earth save Korea, Japan, and China, should Jews hate the entire world?
The relationship is a case of ends justifying means, on both sides. They use, we use them, a case of intersecting objectives. That is exactly what the US/Israel relationship is based upon.
Nino: I am well aware of the Crusaders and their acts. Relationships with todays Christians should not stand on that though. Since Jews have been terribly victimised in every nation on Earth save Korea, Japan, and China, should Jews hate the entire world?
The relationship is a case of ends justifying means, on both sides. They use, we use them, a case of intersecting objectives. That is exactly what the US/Israel relationship is based upon.
nino_savatte
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rachamim18 said:
The Crusader mindset is very much alive and kicking and you're just pawns in their game...in case you hadn't noticed. Why would anyone really want to ally themselves to a bunch of thieving, murderous bastards is beyond me, but then I suppose it takes one to know one.
"Thieving murderous bastards.": By that you mean Jews of course. So transparent.
tangentlama
Nameless voices crying
Nino is talking about the 'Onward Christian Soldiers' (crusader mentality), Rachamim.
nino_savatte
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rachamim18 said:
You're so eager to prove me a raving anti-Semite, that way you can maintain and legitimate your spurious defence of nationalist Zionism. Pity it's a poor strategy, eh?
Perhaps you have ignored the way in which early Zionist leaders allied themselves to the Rapturist project? Though why you and your brethren continue to do so is baffling in the extreme. Balfour was an early Rapturist, so were Wingate and Allenby. You can also throw Lloyd-George in with them. Face it, your leaders were hoodwinked.
Have a think about what the Crusades actually achieved and how they helped to form the nasty, rotten world that we live in today.
nino_savatte
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tangentlama said:
Quite and they continue to play this murderous game of playing one side off against the other (while declaring their love and support for the Jewish people - it's a sham).
Nino: Not one word about real issues?
nino_savatte
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You don't deal in real issues, you deal in myths...and you're a dab hand at bald-faced lies.
teqniq
DisMembered
From the BBC
There's that word 'annexed' again. Well that's O.K. then. One would almost think that that the Israeli government doesn't want the peace talks to go anywhere....
nino_savatte
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Hey, Schlachamim, you realise that Jews and Muslims fought side by side during the seige of Jerusalem in 1088? How about the siege of Haifa?
FridgeMagnet
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Oh this is just getting silly now. If this shtick is all you're ever going to do, then bye.
nino_savatte
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nino_savatte said:
Well I'm back with a new name and I've made a complaint to editor about the ban as it is completely unfair. Fridgemagnet should be stripped of his duties as a mod.
BTW unloyal is a valid synonym to disloyal. Look it up if you have a dictionary.
Fridgemagnet don't try and ban me again as I have already taken this up with editor and I am being entirely honest as to who I am. This is not me (warren) being a sock puppet.
The Pious Pawn
I Can
Wookster said:
the mighty pound /dollar / euro at a guess .
editor said:
Oh I'm shivering at the prospect at you reporting me to my ISP. I'm sure they will ignore your report of me quicker than your gormless mods hit the ban button.
nino_savatte
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Winston123 said:
Bye.
Teqnic: It is no secret that Israel annexed E. Jerusalem. That has nothing to do with anything really. Perhaps you are unaware but despite it having been formally annexed more than a decade prior, the Ross Plan offered E. Jerusalem, along with everything else demanded (up until then) by "Palestinians" but of course it was refused out of hand.
It was annexed in 1980, although not fully ratified until 82, hence it is now considered to have been formally annexed in 82. 67? Where did that come from?
Fact though, Jordan had annexed it in 1950. Funny though, a nation that was formed out of 80% of the proposed Arab Nation of "Palestine," illegaly annexes the Sector and noone batted an eyelash.
Nino: "Jews fought side by side with Muslims against the Crusaders...":And? Less than 20 years before that in what was supposed to be the Golden Age of Jewry (thanks to Islam), the Jewish Community in Granada (al Andalus) was slaughtered.
Jews and Muslims (very few Arabs mind you, since most Muslims in Jerusalem and Hafia at that time were Turks and Persians ) fought side by side only because Crusaders had been committing genocide against both demographics as they tore their way down the Med. Basin. It was not out of any shared love.
Arabs and various Muslim entities never rose to the efficiency of the Germans but they did not fail for a lack of trying.
PS: I like sock puppets. Not much to do in SE Asia.
It was annexed in 1980, although not fully ratified until 82, hence it is now considered to have been formally annexed in 82. 67? Where did that come from?
Fact though, Jordan had annexed it in 1950. Funny though, a nation that was formed out of 80% of the proposed Arab Nation of "Palestine," illegaly annexes the Sector and noone batted an eyelash.
Nino: "Jews fought side by side with Muslims against the Crusaders...":And? Less than 20 years before that in what was supposed to be the Golden Age of Jewry (thanks to Islam), the Jewish Community in Granada (al Andalus) was slaughtered.
Jews and Muslims (very few Arabs mind you, since most Muslims in Jerusalem and Hafia at that time were Turks and Persians ) fought side by side only because Crusaders had been committing genocide against both demographics as they tore their way down the Med. Basin. It was not out of any shared love.
Arabs and various Muslim entities never rose to the efficiency of the Germans but they did not fail for a lack of trying.
PS: I like sock puppets. Not much to do in SE Asia.
Teqniq: Except as your source article says, it is construction WITHIN EXISTING 'SETTLEMENTS.' According to the Rabin "Roadmap," natural expansion is to be accomodated popending final agreement on all issues.
People DO have the right not live 20 to a room. Ariel is the largest of the "Settlments" and I believe the last time I checked they had nearly 20,000 residents.
El Ka'na is also pre-existant and also has that express right.
Tell me though, according to this same "Roadmap," a paper signed by "Palestinians," has the PA moved to dismantle terror organisations?
The issue though, will be just about moot given that that part of the "WB" is not slated for inclusion within the predicted borders of Israel Proper post-final status. For now, people DO have the right to live .
Also, and this is sort of expected from the BBC's Middle-Eastern Bureau and most certainly its Jerusalem Desk, there are approximately just over 267,000 Israeli "Settlers" on the "WB," not "430,000."
People DO have the right not live 20 to a room. Ariel is the largest of the "Settlments" and I believe the last time I checked they had nearly 20,000 residents.
El Ka'na is also pre-existant and also has that express right.
Tell me though, according to this same "Roadmap," a paper signed by "Palestinians," has the PA moved to dismantle terror organisations?
The issue though, will be just about moot given that that part of the "WB" is not slated for inclusion within the predicted borders of Israel Proper post-final status. For now, people DO have the right to live .
Also, and this is sort of expected from the BBC's Middle-Eastern Bureau and most certainly its Jerusalem Desk, there are approximately just over 267,000 Israeli "Settlers" on the "WB," not "430,000."
nino_savatte
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Yawn, more alleged 'bias', bubba? 
Spion
I hear ya
"The World Court has ruled that settlements built on land Israel captured in the 1967 Six Day War are illegal."
From: www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/811480.html
From: www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/811480.html
Spion: "The World Court has ruled that Israeli 'Settlements' built since 1967 are illegal.": Have you wondered why you have not heard this anywhere else? The obvious reason is because it is bogus. While not privy to the author's mindset (although like most Israelis and followers of the dynamic I am well faqmiliar with the author's work{s}), I would wager he is basing it upon the so called "Nambia Ruling."
To take one ruling having to do with a totally different nation and era and then translate THAT into a "ruling" is ludicrous. Granted, some pundits claim that the "Namibia Ruling" set a legal precedent that applies directly to the dynamic in question, that is still a far leap from "declaring 'Settlements' illegal." Facts are though, that the "Namibia Ruling" itself was a non-binding ruling for THAT situation, how mucc less binding then upon a totally different aituation.
Nope, as usual, aside from data like the correct population figure offered, Ha'aretz is worthless save for lipservice to the moderate to hardcore left of Israel, and those who parrot it like Spion.
And AGAIN: Would it not all be moot since Israel is pulling out of the "WB?" Gee, talk of a real non-issue.
To take one ruling having to do with a totally different nation and era and then translate THAT into a "ruling" is ludicrous. Granted, some pundits claim that the "Namibia Ruling" set a legal precedent that applies directly to the dynamic in question, that is still a far leap from "declaring 'Settlements' illegal." Facts are though, that the "Namibia Ruling" itself was a non-binding ruling for THAT situation, how mucc less binding then upon a totally different aituation.
Nope, as usual, aside from data like the correct population figure offered, Ha'aretz is worthless save for lipservice to the moderate to hardcore left of Israel, and those who parrot it like Spion.
And AGAIN: Would it not all be moot since Israel is pulling out of the "WB?" Gee, talk of a real non-issue.
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