Cyclists

[Floh]

Yes, now we have cycle paths to speak of but unfortunately not to actually use because they either don't actually go anywhere or they're blocked with parked cars or broken glass.

One can only hope things improve. i love biking around.

 

[William of Walworth]

I think you're totally sounding off in the wrong place, if that's all you can say. Another entirely negative post - it's not like you qualified your opening post with how this situation came about? or bothered to even differentiate between those cyclist that do offer good consideration. You've posted your crap on here trying to get a rise out of the cyclists (and possibly bring other car-lovin' cycle haterzzzz out of the woodwork here to boot) to just make yourself feel better by shouting a few generalisations about and the overwhelming odds are that no cyclist on here was the one that yelled at you today.

How about if you go the same route everyday, you keep an eye out because there's a chance that you may, ahem, *bump* into him again.

Like I said, just another negative post that doesn't do this board any favours. What is the matter with people? THINK before you post, the polarisation and intolerance on urban these days just seems to mimicing what's happening on the streets - sort it out!

Post of the thread -- brilliant deconstruction of jcsd's totally intolerent, sweepingly generalising tosserdom.

Very lucky to escape a 24 hour ban IMO. Wanker.

William, Cyclist of Walworth -- one of the huge majority of daily cyclists who behave responsibly and that pathologically cyclist-hating twats like jscd (often to be read frothing and foaming hysterically in the Times and Telegraph) never notice. Us good cyclists are invisible to those 'I'll buy a car just to run you all down' types when they rant on about 'all' cyclists being arrogant, lawbreaking, smug, complacent, dangerous, etc. That's right jscd, I said intolerent ignorant twats very similar to YOU!

PS I also do think, strongly, that other cyclists who DO shoot lights, ignore pedestrians, ride recklessly on pavements, etc. are total twats, and I often shout out 'Give us all a bad name, why don't you?', to those, to prove to other TWATS like jscd lingering nearby that 'we' are not 'all' anything like the rogue minority.

 

[gaijingirl]

So your fury stems from these two events:

1. You ignored the fact that cyclists have right of way on a cycle path.
2. You objected to a cyclist warning you she was approaching on a bridleway.

From which I deduce that you really don't have enough to think about. Have you considered campaigning against overtly intrusive wheelie bins? Might keep you occupied for a bit. You could make posters and everything.

Brilliant!

 

[Wookey]

Cyclists will one day save the world, if they haven't already started.

 

[maomao]

PS I also do think, strongly, that other cyclists who DO shoot lights, ignore pedestrians, ride recklessly on pavements, etc. are total twats

What is 'shooting' a light? Sounds like it requires a gun.

 

[Major Tom]

Yes, now we have cycle paths to speak of but unfortunately not to actually use because they either don't actually go anywhere or they're blocked with parked cars or broken glass.

That's a bit unfair - sure most are useless - there are ones out in SE London that are how you describe - pointless ones in wide safe roads that merely provide an green tarmaced parking area for local residents.

But on my route from Camberwell to Leyton I use a few off road paths that are pretty useful (Leyton), the marked route on the canal towpath from Mile End to Hackney, a shared use path by Tower Bridge and Aldgate East, a bit through Victoria Park, a bit near Elephant and Castle that everyone walks on, the Greenway that goes through Stratford is great too, and a couple of exceedingly useful contra flow lanes.

About 40% of my ride to work is off road.

 

[maomao]

I'm referring to the cycle path on the A10. The situation in SE London sounds a bit better; Enfield council is truly terrible. Apart from the odd metre long section leading up to an ignored ASL my commute to the centre doesn't have any cycle path at all. (I could use the A10 one but it's just not good enough)

 

[gsv]

The point is these are excatly the sort of people who whinge about how cars treat them on the road (and that's fiar I used to cycle alot, so I know it's true), but you put them anywhere near pedestarins and they behave exactly the same.

He's got a point there, and it's something that fucks me off no end about some cyclists. It's particularly noticeable on the canal towpath in camden - most of the cyclists expect pedestrians to get out their way

So good point, but that still doesn't make this anything but a fuckspuddy thread.


GS(v)

 

[Wookey]

It's particularly noticeable on the canal towpath in camden - most of the cyclists expect pedestrians to get out their way

I think part of the problem is people in general don't notice cycle lanes, or take them seriously. Cars use them as car-parks, and they don't get a ticket for it, so they abuse an already poor system by blocking it up.

Likewise, pedestrians don't see it as a true traffic lane, which it is, and go wandering all over it, in a way they wouldn't do on a road with cars (some misplaced sense of invincibility perhaps.... ).

If there was a dedicated cycle system in London, say, with a north-south spoke and an east-west spoke, and it was properly patrolled and policed, then people's respect and awareness for cycle lanes would increase, along with safety. But the mayor has to take cycle lanes seriously too, to lead by example, and he hasn't done thus far.

Manchester's cycle routes are similarly daft in places, 10-foot cycle lanes that lead into walls, etc. But I'd hazard a guess it's more complete than London's.

 

[Major Tom]

He's got a point there, and it's something that fucks me off no end about some cyclists. It's particularly noticeable on the canal towpath in camden - most of the cyclists expect pedestrians to get out their way

not my experience - the part of the canal i use there's plenty of space for cyclists and peds without anyone needing to give way to the other.

some peds however like to walk right in the middle of the path or in large groups. a tinkle on the bell is usually enough, but some peds do get arsey about having to move out of the way, however slightly.

some peds go completely mad and as soon as they see a cyclist coming they move off the path and go and stand in the bushes. Amazing. Why do they think that a bike is as wide as a car? Then some of these deluded people complain about cyclists forcing them off the path (I didn't).

 

[pinkychukkles]

Or as happened to Tricky Mickey in the not so distant past on the same towpath when he neared the Dalston end, cycled behind some yoot, who parted to let him through then as he was passing them, pushed him off the sadal, into the canal then nicked his bike!

 

[William of Walworth]

[1] He's got a point there, and it's something that fucks me off no end about some cyclists. It's particularly noticeable on the canal towpath in camden - most of the cyclists expect pedestrians to get out their way

[2] So good point, but that still doesn't make this anything but a fuckspuddy thread.


GS(v)

GS(v) :

Stop boosting this fuckspud's credibility by acknowledging that he has ANY kind of point.

He doesn't -- because of the fuckspuddy way he made it.

In other words : your point [1] is totally invalidated by your point [2].

Another point : any reasonable and fair criticisms of some cyclists (some of which, as I said above, I share) are undermined and discredited by the bigotted hatred shown by ignorant wankers like jscd ... Some of these haterzzz are drivers (not that I'd ever say that all drivers are lowlife or anything). Many of them demonstrate their hate against cyclists, including safe ones, by turning left just ahead of them without indicating, revving up aggressively behind them at traffic lights (yes, some of us DO stop at lights, and those green advance sspaces at some junctions are for us, not YOU, Mr Cardriver!, some of whom shout ignorant shite at you from car windows, some of them deliberately drive next to the kerb even when there's a cycle lane, just to frustrate us, some of them HATE us and
show it very clearly at all times.

JSCD and those people hate us. I don't claim that justifies ANY wanker-cyclist bad behaviour, but all this sweeping generalsing anger polarises any discussion, I'm even doing it a bit here myself. Partly because, I admit, the obnoxious political predelictions of the cysle bashers often shine through.... they sometimes (random tangent), in the way they talk/write/rant, resemble those hypocrisy-hunting veggie-haters who comb through the lifestyle of any veggie they meet to seek out and expose any slight inconsistency, while treating all veggies as fanatical, intolerent, smug, 'politically correct'** ranters. Quite unlike themselves, natch ...

**Immediate evidence of being a stupid ignorant twat, any non-ironic use of that phrase ...

All IMO, naturally

Safe considerate drivers and cyclists and pedestrians are all alright! And we can all just about get along.

 

[William of Walworth]

I think part of the problem is people in general don't notice cycle lanes, or take them seriously. Cars use them as car-parks, and they don't get a ticket for it, so they abuse an already poor system by blocking it up.

Likewise, pedestrians don't see it as a true traffic lane, which it is, and go wandering all over it, in a way they wouldn't do on a road with cars (some misplaced sense of invincibility perhaps.... ).

If there was a dedicated cycle system in London, say, with a north-south spoke and an east-west spoke, and it was properly patrolled and policed, then people's respect and awareness for cycle lanes would increase, along with safety. But the mayor has to take cycle lanes seriously too, to lead by example, and he hasn't done thus far.

Manchester's cycle routes are similarly daft in places, 10-foot cycle lanes that lead into walls, etc. But I'd hazard a guess it's more complete than London's.

Good post Wookey

I thought I'd leave you to do the reasonable stuff, bu for me it was worth taking up the nastier Policeman role to have a counter-rant ...

 

[William of Walworth]

Or as happened to Tricky Mickey in the not so distant past on the same towpath when he neared the Dalston end, cycled behind some yoot, who parted to let him through then as he was passing them, pushed him off the sadal, into the canal then nicked his bike!

Don't get me started on those utterly, utterly braindead cunts** who smash bottles in the road -- occasionally deliberately, in cycle lanes!

**No punishment over harsh for those wankers.

Also, any effective and cool putdown suggestions for those cretinous morons who shout 'your back wheel's going round' would be appreciated. I've ineffectively racked my brain for one over 24 years of London cycling!

Fuming silence is bad for you ...

 

[ernestolynch]

Hmmm. Interesting thread.

Poster makes badly-worded 'controversial' statement, which has been seen previously coming from pushbike-users about cars and so on.

FAQ-busting insults and personal abuse, which goes un-warned.

Threadstarter gets threatened with a ban.

William of Walworth advocates capital punishment for litter louts.

Are push-bike users insane?

 

[Major Tom]

Are push-bike users insane?

yes!! and don;t ever forget it!!

 

[Floh]

Are push-bike users insane?

Very probably . . .

 

[chieftain]

Are push-bike users insane?

You knows it

 

[gsv]

Me knows it and so does my invisible fish

GS(v)

 

[pk]

I still have fond memories of my days as a cycle courier in Central London... the amount of city twat boy-racer BMW and Mercedes windscreens I cracked with my D-Lock barrel at the traffic lights after the cunts cut me up... ahh... sweet, must have cost them thousands of pounds all told.

Hint to drivers - don't fuck with cycle couriers if you like your windscreens, oh, and there's fuck all you can do about it because we're quicker than you across town - and we don't have numberplates.

The ones to watch are the ones who don't carry the company bags so you don't even know the firm they work for.



In London, bikes rule, fuck the cars.

 

[richtea]

Are push-bike users insane?

possibly. we've got great arses though!

 

[Mini]

I still have fond memories of my days as a cycle courier in Central London... the amount of city twat boy-racer BMW and Mercedes windscreens I cracked with my D-Lock barrel at the traffic lights after the cunts cut me up... ahh... sweet, must have cost them thousands of pounds all told.

Hint to drivers - don't fuck with cycle couriers if you like your windscreens, oh, and there's fuck all you can do about it because we're quicker than you across town - and we don't have numberplates.

The ones to watch are the ones who don't carry the company bags so you don't even know the firm they work for.



In London, bikes rule, fuck the cars.

Hehe, nice one

I almost saw it kick off on Monday between a courier and a driver. It was just off Shaftesbury Ave. The driver really cut up the courier and the courier just went mental, screaming obscenities. The driver wisely sped off! He wasn't driving a BMW or Merc though, just some shitty peaugeot 106! The Courier chased after him. Don't know if he caught up with or not!