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Don't want to derail my own thread... but insurance from who? I'm not so keen on Cycleguard now after this thread, and my home contents isn't great either.
 
BiddlyBee said:
Don't want to derail my own thread... but insurance from who? I'm not so keen on Cycleguard now after this thread, and my home contents isn't great either.

11. Join the LCC. You get free liability insurance and "cheap" theft insurance.
 
Sign up to the CTC to get free 3rd party insurance.

If possible have at least two bikes. One for the pub that does not shine which you are happy to leave locked up in town and a shiney one for Sunday best. Become sentimentally attached to your Sunday best bike and be obsesive about its security.

Consider cycle touring as a fab way to take a holiday. Put a lightweight tent on your rack and head to the hills.
 
BiddlyBee said:
Ah, that's on my list :o - take it they don't have the same crap small print as cycleguard then?
It's just 3rd party - eg. if you hit someone or someone's car while cycling.
 
BiddlyBee said:
They offer a discount on theft insurance too though I think.
Yeah - it's about 10% of the cost of the bike and additions - goodness knows what it is without the discount!
 
Orang Utan said:
I dunno about cheap - I got a quote for £110 for my bike:eek:


:eek:

bloody hell. Mine is just insured on my contents insurance, not sure how much it is. Not much.
 
*takes notes*

OK. As token 'would like to cycle but doesn't have a bike yet' person on the thread, a stooopid question. :o

Does anyone actually *signal* when they're cycling y'know like you were taught at cycling proficency in school?
 
beeboo said:
Does anyone actually *signal* when they're cycling y'know like you were taught at cycling proficency in school?
Not everyone, but it's wise to.
I got shouted at by another cyclist for not signalling that I was slowing down - I didn't even know there was a sign for it and still don't know what it is - I take the view that it's pointless making a sign that no-one will understand and if you crash into me if I slow down smoothly, you're too close to me anyway.
 
Too right... everyone else on the road, and pedestrians on the pavement need to know where you're going.

Think about how annoying it is when cars turn without indicating - it;s the same for bikes.
 
Orang Utan said:
Not everyone, but it's wise to.
I got shouted at by another cyclist for not signalling that I was slowing down - I didn't even know there was a sign for it and still don't know what it is - I take the view that it's pointless making a sign that no-one will understand and if you crash into me if I slow down smoothly, you're too close to me anyway.

Isn't it sort of sticking your arm out and waving it up and down?
 
beeboo said:
Isn't it sort of sticking your arm out and waving it up and down?
Maybe, but if you were to employ such a move, I'd bet most motorists and other cyclists would just think 'what's that nutter doing?'
 
Always signal. And not that wussy "lift the hand 6 inches cos I'm too cool to stick my hand out" copout. The whole point of the signal is to let people know what you're doing. Full stretch, and maybe even a little twitch of the fingers "I'm going that way, yes that way!"
 
Does anyone actually *signal* when they're cycling y'know like you were taught at cycling proficency in school?

Yes, where possible.
But it is also a good idea to know when taking your hands off the bars to signal is safe and when it is not. (not safe if you are going to need to brake or avoid a pothole, child etc.)

I could be wrong but I think that looking over your shoulder into the eyes of people behind you and changing path steadily and purposefully is as good as sticking your arm out to signal.

PS if you look over your shoulder, you hav a natural tendancy to steer in that direction
 
Orang Utan said:
Here's a tip: expect bike nerds to stop you at busy junctions and ask you geeky questions about your gears:rolleyes: :D
Only applies if you have poncy gears :)
 
ah - gears! Can someone explain in simple terms how gears work?

Is it high or low where you're legs are going like pinwheels but you're not getting anywhere? :o
 
low gear = pinwheels. used for starting off
high gear = tooo haaard to push. used for cruising at speed.

I tend to stick to the middle 7 gers on my bike. I only shift to the bottom set for a really steep hill and only use the top set when going VERY fast.
 
nick said:
I could be wrong but I think that looking over your shoulder into the eyes of people behind you and changing path steadily and purposefully is as good as sticking your arm out to signal.
It should be, and if the guy behind you is paying attention it is.

But then I've been pulled out on before after first making eye contact, and I was on a motorbike at the time. You will never lose money by betting on how crap/inattentive the average driver can be :(

Also from an ass covering poiint of view. If you're ever involved in a serious accident where damages come into the frame, I believe they can be reduced if the court determines you were partly to blame. I can just see some slimey defence brief getting a chunk taken out of any awarded damages because you didn't follow the letter of the law and extend your arm.

Don't give them the satisfaction of being able to do this, especially if you're facing the rest of your life eating through a straw :mad:

Engrain indicating as a habit, you might save your own life one day.
 
Orang Utan said:
Not everyone, but it's wise to.
I got shouted at by another cyclist for not signalling that I was slowing down - I didn't even know there was a sign for it and still don't know what it is - I take the view that it's pointless making a sign that no-one will understand and if you crash into me if I slow down smoothly, you're too close to me anyway.
Bollocks, you should have told him to piss off (unless....). There's a signal for stopping, i.e. when you're going to pull in to the kerb and come to a stop, i.e. when you've reached your destination and you're going to get off your bike. The signal is basically your right arm waving the traffic to carry on past you. You do not need to signal when you're slowing down to stop for a red light or a junction.

I've never seen anyone use the signal. And, you're right, most people don't know what the f*ck that signal means anyway - I know, because I used to do it all the time, and motorists would still stay behind me, with a confused look on their face, until they actually saw me stop and get off the bike. IMO it might be better to just signal left, because it's more easily understood.
 
London Bike shops give away free cycle maps that have routes recommended by other cyclists on them (as well as cycle paths).

Oh and only use cycle paths that you feel safer on some of them are really badly designed.
 
Orang Utan said:
I only use the one gear on my current bike - ridiculous considering that I have, as you say, 'poncy gears' :o
divvy, you should have got a singlespeed bike if you only use one gear. less weight and less maintenance, you see.
 
Herbsman. said:
divvy, you should have got a singlespeed bike if you only use one gear. less weight and less maintenance, you see.
:o Well I can get a bike a year on my ride to work scheme, so maybe I'll get one next. I had my heart set on a flash road bike though
 
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