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tobyjug said:
From about 1978 until 1984 my wife and I canoed several hundred miles of canal and fishing gear litter was not all that common a sight.

Occasional certainly & IME, many fishers will pick it up & dispose of it properly or if it is dangerous, inform the owners. Clubs etc regularly organise clear-up days on riverbanks & to pick-up a hell of a lot more than fishing litter. :eek:
 
pogofish said:
Occasional certainly & IME, many fishers will pick it up & dispose of it properly or if it is dangerous, inform the owners. Clubs etc regularly organise clear-up days on riverbanks & to pick-up a hell of a lot more than fishing litter. :eek:


I was always puzzled by the number of dead dogs floating in canals.
 
tobyjug said:
If it were not for anglers keeping canals in care and maintainence in the decades when no-one else gave a shit about canals you would not have a towpath to cycle down.(I am not an angler)

Jesus. I said ever tried cycling down a towpath when there is a fuckity fucking fishing match, at no stage did I say fishermen had nothing to offer the economy on the canals.

Rather like have you ever tried driving down the M5 on August bank holiday weekend when it is full of fuckity fucking tourists, if I said that would you have pounced on me and said that I'm having a go at tourists and that tourists are essential to the economy of the south west?

I was just on about them getting in the way.

I'm not stupid thanks.
 
lizzieloo said:
Rather like have you ever tried driving down the M5 on August bank holiday weekend when it is full of fuckity fucking tourists, if I said that would you have pounced on me and said that I'm having a go at tourists and that tourists are essential to the economy of the south west?

I was just on about them getting in the way.

I'm not stupid thanks.


Whether tourists are essential to the economy of the South West, (given it is such a very fickle trade) has been the subject of very heated discussion in the Bristol and South West forum.
Personally whenever I travel on the M5 in the tourist season I wish I had anti-caravan missiles fitted to my vehicle.
 
Major Tom said:
Bollocks!!

Leaving their hooks and fishing line lying around to kill the birds, and being generally abusive to anyone who dares come near them when they're fishing, including boat-owners. :mad:

I have to say most fishermen I've come across on the cut have been polite.

There are wankers, the ones that just don't give a shit, the ones that shit on the towpaths, just leave it there, the ones that are abusive (I can probably count them on one hand during my experience on the cut), the couple that decided to fish off our back deck ( :eek: ) woke up, went to go out, couldn't cos some idiot was there.

I'm not pro fishing by any stretch of the imagination but saying they are generally abusive aint true.
 
tobyjug said:
Whether tourists are essential to the economy of the South West, (given it is such a very fickle trade) has been the subject of very heated discussion in the Bristol and South West forum.
Personally whenever I travel on the M5 in the tourist season I wish I had anti-caravan missiles fitted to my vehicle.

You are not getting my point.

I said fishermen block the towpath and get in the way during a fishing match.

Am I wrong?
 
tobyjug said:
Now you are being a bit more specific, I can't make a comment about canals that go through urban and industrial areas as my experience was on mainly rural canals.

I'd like to point out my experience of the canal is not excusively rural or urban.

Spent a couple of years on the Birmingham Canal Navigations, folk round there were the most poilite I have come across.
 
lizzieloo said:
You are not getting my point.

I said fishermen block the towpath and get in the way during a fishing match.

Am I wrong?

The only time I have seen a fishing match on a canal was in the pouring rain in November on the Oxford canal when my wife and I were moving one of a friends narrow boats back down to Oxford for the winter.
I did not see any cyclists.
 
tobyjug said:
The only time I have seen a fishing match on a canal was in the pouring rain in November on the Oxford canal when my wife and I were moving one of a friends narrow boats back down to Oxford for the winter.
I did not see any cyclists.

I've seen hundreds, I did.
 
tobyjug said:
Just how old are you please? The canals were in decline for decades until the 1970s and the ONLY people during those years who gave a monkeys fuck about the canals were anglers. Many canals would have been filled in if it were not for them.

:rolleyes:

This is a completely slack generalisation. Anglers do sod all for the Monmouth and Brecon because they hardly use it, there's much better fishing on the rivers and reservoirs.

The conservation groups, species enthusiasts, walkers, cyclists, and canal/narrow boat enthusiasts are the ones who've sorted the canal and its paths out and kept it that way. The restoration was started in the 60s not the 70s.

So get your facts straight before you start attributing the hard work of lots of different groups to one fairly self-interested one, grandad.
 
ICB said:
:rolleyes:

This is a completely slack generalisation. Anglers do sod all for the Monmouth and Brecon because they hardly use it, there's much better fishing on the rivers and reservoirs.

The conservation groups, species enthusiasts, walkers, cyclists, and canal/narrow boat enthusiasts are the ones who've sorted the canal and its paths out and kept it that way. The restoration was started in the 60s not the 70s.

So get your facts straight before you start attributing the hard work of lots of different groups to one fairly self-interested one, grandad.

grandad! :D

:p :cool: :rolleyes:
 
ICB said:
:rolleyes:

This is a completely slack generalisation. Anglers do sod all for the Monmouth and Brecon because they hardly use it, there's much better fishing on the rivers and reservoirs.

The conservation groups, species enthusiasts, walkers, cyclists, and canal/narrow boat enthusiasts are the ones who've sorted the canal and its paths out and kept it that way. The restoration was started in the 60s not the 70s.

So get your facts straight before you start attributing the hard work of lots of different groups to one fairly self-interested one, grandad.


My facts are straight. Read a few of Hadfields books on the canals. I also took part in a canal restoration project back in the early 1980s.
It is widely acknowledged that anglers contributed time effort and many to care and maintainence well before most restoration projects got off of the ground.
 
tobyjug said:
My facts are straight. Read a few of Hadfields books on the canals. I also took part in a canal restoration project back in the early 1980s.
It is widely acknowledged that anglers contributed time effort and many to care and maintainence well before most restoration projects got off of the ground.

On some, but not all, and amongst many other groups who contributed, so your facts are partial at best.
 
tobyjug said:
Anglers pay to fish in the canal,

Narrowboat owners pay a fuck of a lot more. fishing matches are a nighmare if you live on a boat.

tobyjug said:
do you pay to ride on the towpath.

I no longer live on a boat but when I did, yes I did. I paid to live there.
 
tobyjug said:
My facts are straight. Read a few of Hadfields books on the canals. I also took part in a canal restoration project back in the early 1980s.
It is widely acknowledged that anglers contributed time effort and many to care and maintainence well before most restoration projects got off of the ground.

And they get in the way during fishing matches, which was the original point you pounced on.
 
Another general observation on crap anglers might be that IME, the waters most troubled by littering & assholes are amongst the most accessable & well-known. Often they attract folk who might only fish a few days a year, turn-up with a carry-out & a pile of new tackle but with little idea how to use it sensibly or how to relate to the others on the water.
 
tobyjug said:
I was always puzzled by the number of dead dogs floating in canals.


Just come back from a ride down a few london canals.

Between Horsenden Hill and Bull Bridge(?), it appears to be coconut season, gave up counting after 20 or so, and wasn't looking particularly hard.
 
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