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I've had this discussion too many times before, but I often find it quite boring and that music motivates me.
Music plus exercise = dancing. :)

I went on a 50 mile ride in the country with some nice people on Sunday and didn't feel the need.
 
i was thinking about it the other day on the way home as i was on a long one-way stretch - i could hear cars approaching me from behind and from the sounds of their engines i could tell which ones were coming up a bit near to me and how quickly they were accelerating to overtake me and felt it was good to know this and that it would be folly to deliberately obscure this sense.
I can tell that too. I tried it without for a while after one of these arguments and I wasn't satisfied that it made much difference.
 
Drafting is generally cuntish - unless you're both sharing the work and the run is a nice wide, straightish one (say Whitechapel to Old Ford, E&C to Brixton). People I just overtook blocking my exit from the lights is also just plain rude. People who sail out from behind stopped buses without looking are also fools of the highest order.
 
deaf people don't cycle do they?
i know they don't handglide cos they've never heard of it

Well no, but by your logic deaf people shouldn't ride bicycles or motorbikes. Which they can and do.

cyclists wearing headphones has always struck me as suicidal

No, you just look around a lot more. I'm with mauvais on this - wearing/not wearing headphones makes no difference to me while I'm riding, and quite honestly I'd prefer to have some music to ride to.
 
No, you just look around a lot more. I'm with mauvais on this - wearing/not wearing headphones makes no difference to me while I'm riding, and quite honestly I'd prefer to have some music to ride to.

I think it's daft and dangerous.
 
No, you just look around a lot more. I'm with mauvais on this - wearing/not wearing headphones makes no difference to me while I'm riding, and quite honestly I'd prefer to have some music to ride to.

Agreed, I cycle with headphones as well, just means that I am looking around myself FAR more than most other cyclists. The amount of times that some dumbass cyclist has pulled out in front of me as I'm overtaking them is crazy, they obviously think that because they can't hear anything coming up behind there is no reason to take a look :rolleyes:
 
Given the relatively low speed of sound, and the lack of precision in terms of locating where it's coming from, it's presumably not something to rely on to any great extent.

I would never ride with in-ear phones and loud music though ... I find I can hear what I need to hear - certainly the local petrol-addled clowns when they roar up behind me expecting me to get out of the way.
 
Yup, and deaf motorcyclists.

All it does is make you use your eyes more - for example doing the over the shoulder checks more often.
 
As I said before, it depends on road conditions, familiarity with the route, and on one's relationship with the choice of music.

Only an individual rider can decide whether it's a boon or a hindrance. I couldn't do my daily commute without something to modulate the traffic noise a bit.

I've played this one so often it isn't at all distracting :-

http://www.deeprhythms.com/audio/Bluetransmission-TimoRotonen-Aprl-9-03.mp3

this is just nonsense. all the justification i ever read just look like desperate wriggling like the excuses of an alcoholic for carrying on drinking
 
I'm going to cycle with a blindfold.

And cut my hands off.

I might make some small holes in the blindfold though, don't want to be stupid.
 
deaf motorcyclists? WTF?

Because sound isn't a necessary part of driving or riding. When you're in a car the only sense you rely on is sight; you're basically insulated from the world. When you wear a crash helmet, your hearing is impaired, and coupled with the noise of your engine your hearing is pretty non-existant (IME of riding motorbikes as a passenger anyway).

So you don't use your sense of hearing that much, if at all, piloting powered vehicles. If you're going to criticise people with headphones for anything, it's that depending on what you're listening to can be more or less distracting - the whole 'But it's a whole sense going' thing is pish.
 
Sorry, I still can't work out if you're merely being obtuse, or actually being thick here. Yes, deaf people can hold driving licences for motorbikes and cars.
 
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