Oswaldtwistle
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There are some such trails in the UK (not in London) although a lot of them (not all) are leisure routes where people go for a sunday afternoon spin rather than practical commuter routes.
Cycle Superhighways
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There are some such trails in the UK (not in London) although a lot of them (not all) are leisure routes where people go for a sunday afternoon spin rather than practical commuter routes.
fjydj
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Here's an artist impression of a cycle superhighway
Now, to me, that looks like they plan on painting the roads blue
While I commend Tfl for splashing out on some new paint, the green cycle lanes ain't a great success. Vehicles park in them, they go nowhere, and there are pot-holes and glass in them periodically
Link: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/cycling/11901.aspx
Will these be a success?
what a shit picture, doesn't give much confidence... and the "artist" could have chosen any starting image given its an artist impression, so they pick a shitty grey day with a dirty white van right in the centre... and then put the computer generated cyclist in the fucking gutter and not the proper road position...
Cid
Proper break this time
Very good idea, especially since all the gear needed to make/maintain rumble strips is well established.
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
Its so totally thoughtless and a total waste of time and money and clearly car centric.
The idea is very sound. Find some routes into the Capital and convert them into proper cycle paths away from cars. They don't wear out like proper roads so last way longer and would actually get people onto their bikes.
The idea is very sound. Find some routes into the Capital and convert them into proper cycle paths away from cars. They don't wear out like proper roads so last way longer and would actually get people onto their bikes.
fredfelt
Mostly unknown member
An implementation of 'Skyways Elevated Cycle ways' would do the trick
http://www.thepurehands.org/cycleways/index.html
It may not be cheap, but will not come in anywhere near as expensive as the 6bn currently being spent on widening the M25
http://www.thepurehands.org/cycleways/index.html
It may not be cheap, but will not come in anywhere near as expensive as the 6bn currently being spent on widening the M25
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
You've got to be kidding me. That utterly ruins the convenience of bicycles - ie. go wherever you want, stop wherever you want.
fredfelt
Mostly unknown member
You think so? Yes, it would be better to be able to cycle safely on roads that are not clogged with cars, but failing that a safe fast cycle route you can join and get off at when you want would be great.
It would only ruin the convenience of bicycles if you had no option but to use these.
fredfelt
Mostly unknown member
Yeah, you are probably right. But I still think it's a cool idea!
cybertect
It's grim up north (London)
Tory policies? The idea was first announced under Ken's administration. BoJo's just carried on with it.
11 Feb 2008
Evening Standard said:
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
The big elephant in the room now is the Olympics; absolutely everything can - and we have to assume is - geared towards window dressing - esp. environmental stuff. The worlds largest array of wind turbines in the Thames estuary is the start, the bike rental scheme . . . pretty much anything they can lay their hands on is going to be thrown in front of the cameras - what happens after is anyones guess.
Tory policies? The idea was first announced under Ken's administration. BoJo's just carried on with it.
11 Feb 2008
It will require engineering to make a difference, rather than just having several km's of blue advisory cycle lanes (admittedly over 80% of it should by on red route which should help) and some pretty leaflets. Agreed it was Ken's idea originally but I think he would have approached it in a different manner. London Calling's put it a little bit more eloquently.
The blue cycle lanes will provide the photo opportunity for the Tory Mayor that is a cycle nut. Even if they are only advisory, any actual lack of practical benefits will be glossed over (or the fact that the majority of the suggested routes run on tube lines). Practicality seems to be out of fashion at the moment. Check the amount of money being thrown at Exhibition Road, and the political connections in that part of London and who's in City Hall.
fjydj
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re-read your talking points - the tories don't have any policies remember... keep repeating.
Exactly - PR Exercise, looks nice for the camera, Boris, Dave and George cycle together on a nice bit of blue tarmac somewhere in South London - with half a dozen pap's watching. Does it help your average cyclist. No (probably not).
Open Sauce
Active Member
Car will overtake and turn sharp left as always
Open Sauce
Active Member
I have enough problems with retarded drivers that think I should be riding the wrong way down a contra-cycle lane. You think I'd be harassment free with these things in the air.
Things will only change when man in car learns to drive with cyclists and drops the 'must overtake bike' attitude. We need to share the road not seggregate
likesfish
You can't park here sir
citydreams
on the road again
Cycle Superhighways: Brussels
Through a programme which cost 1m euro they have introduced the following:
1. Contra flow cycling on the vast majority of their one way streets (it became mandatory unless the local authority could prove that it was dangerous)
2. ASL’s on 476 junctions
3. Cycle lanes a minimum of 80cm from parked cars and 2.1m wide – these are mandatory, cars can only drive through to park
4. Virtual cycle lanes with logos plus ‘sharrows’ (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shared_lane_marking) – cars and bikes share a lane but idea is that cycle command the middle of the lane and overtaking cars must use at least some of adjacent lane
5. In areas where not enough space for either 3 or 4 then they use adriannes thread, no sharrows, just logos
6. In bus lanes then buses and taxis must overtake using at least some of adjacent lane
7. The Belgium road safety executive said no to motorcycles using bus lanes due to the large speed difference between bikes and motorbikes
These measures cost just 5 – 10k per km and the contra flow cycle lanes have also proved to be the safest part of the road network. They have contributed to an increase in mode share for cycling of 1.2% in 1999 to between 4 and 6% today.
Through a programme which cost 1m euro they have introduced the following:
1. Contra flow cycling on the vast majority of their one way streets (it became mandatory unless the local authority could prove that it was dangerous)
2. ASL’s on 476 junctions
3. Cycle lanes a minimum of 80cm from parked cars and 2.1m wide – these are mandatory, cars can only drive through to park
4. Virtual cycle lanes with logos plus ‘sharrows’ (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shared_lane_marking) – cars and bikes share a lane but idea is that cycle command the middle of the lane and overtaking cars must use at least some of adjacent lane
5. In areas where not enough space for either 3 or 4 then they use adriannes thread, no sharrows, just logos
6. In bus lanes then buses and taxis must overtake using at least some of adjacent lane
7. The Belgium road safety executive said no to motorcycles using bus lanes due to the large speed difference between bikes and motorbikes
These measures cost just 5 – 10k per km and the contra flow cycle lanes have also proved to be the safest part of the road network. They have contributed to an increase in mode share for cycling of 1.2% in 1999 to between 4 and 6% today.
co-op
But....but cLoWnFiSh....
Cycle Super Highways....
At last we get to share in the great vision....
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/cycling/11901.aspx?lid=switcher
I'm sure it's all jolly exciting but I have a feeling I've seen them before, but then they were called "cycle paths". The only difference is that they've painted them blue.
Check out in particular slide number 7, the A13 towards the City. I mean, the thing doesn't even meet TfL's own blather about being "direct and continuous", - it's been broken by pedestrian space, there are bollards all over it and anyway it's ON THE PAVEMENT! This is hopeless. What a massive waste of money this is going to be.
Nice one Boris, pushing that pro-car agenda again.
At last we get to share in the great vision....
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/cycling/11901.aspx?lid=switcher
I'm sure it's all jolly exciting but I have a feeling I've seen them before, but then they were called "cycle paths". The only difference is that they've painted them blue.
Check out in particular slide number 7, the A13 towards the City. I mean, the thing doesn't even meet TfL's own blather about being "direct and continuous", - it's been broken by pedestrian space, there are bollards all over it and anyway it's ON THE PAVEMENT! This is hopeless. What a massive waste of money this is going to be.
Nice one Boris, pushing that pro-car agenda again.
Onket
Je suis [CONTENT REMOVED]
These maps are quite good though- https://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/roadusers/cycling/cycle-guides-request.aspx
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
Sadly it's no better down here in "Cycling City".
But at least here we have the excuse that the chief council officer in charge of cycling in South Glos famously cannot even ride a bike.
But at least here we have the excuse that the chief council officer in charge of cycling in South Glos famously cannot even ride a bike.
Yeah they are useful, great if someone clever did it so you could put them android/iphones with gps.
highways, L A M E
teuchter
je suis teuchter
It has to be said, that the description "superhighway" isn't what springs to mind.
I prefer an old school paper map, tbh.
I'm happy with paper as well but
- I'm getting a new phone
- and I always get disoriented going through E London at night, dunno why does my head in actually, I might just paint a line through it going to my house and look for that.
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