Cults and religions

[max_freakout]

Because your belief system makes you massively massively gullible to all kinds of absurd things.

why are you really worried by this?

 

[Dillinger4]

Because you are gullible enough to believe things that are dangerous to the safety of the rest of us.

You clearly have no respect for the body or lived experience, you do not care about other peoples beliefs because you think you are superior, you have a closed circle of belief that people either 'get or don't get', which divides people into those towards enlightenment and the enlightened and a lower class what you almost make out to be sub-humans waiting for your spritual glow to illuminate their lives, ETC ETC.

 

[cesare]

Because you are gullible enough to believe things that are dangerous to the safety of the rest of us.

You clearly have no respect for the body or lived experience, you do not care about other peoples beliefs because you think you are superior, you have a closed circle of belief that people either 'get or don't get', which divides people into those towards enlightenment and the enlightened and a lower class what you almost make out to be sub-humans waiting for your spritual glow to illuminate their lives, ETC ETC.

In a nutshell.

 

[Dillinger4]

I could go on.

 

[max_freakout]

you .... believe things that are dangerous to the safety of the rest of us.

please explain this

 

[Dillinger4]

What do you think of the holocaust?

 

[cesare]

What do you think of the holocaust?

They've already answered that.

 

[Dillinger4]

It is essentially selfish. They dont give a fuck about other humans suffering or anything like that.

 

[max_freakout]

What do you think of the holocaust?

you answer my question first

 

[Dillinger4]

Ahh, that old chestnut.

My question answers yours.

We have discussed the holocaust before, and you dont know if it happened. It would not matter if there was ethnic cleansing happening now, because essentially 'nothing matters' etc etc etc.

That is the ultimate conclusion of your belief system.

 

[max_freakout]

please answer my question, regarding your comment about 'safety of the rest of us'

 

[Dillinger4]

I have, thanks.



But I know how you want to spin it, as you consider yourself something of a spiritual renegade, or some bullshit.

 

[cesare]

please answer my question, regarding your comment about 'safety'

Your question means nothing and demands nothing as a response, because nothing means everything to you.

 

[max_freakout]

I have, thanks.



But I know how you want to spin it, as you consider yourself something of a spiritual renegade, or some bullshit.

you have not explained what you meant by 'the safety of the rest of us'

 

[Dillinger4]

It is pretty clear.

You are just swerving.

 

[i-am-your-idea]

It is pretty clear.

You are just swerving.

you always claim things are clear, maybe you just wish they were.

 

[Dillinger4]

Have a thought, for once in your life.

 

[cesare]

It is pretty clear.

You are just swerving.

Maybe he's genuine.

But answering the question (such as it needs to be answered further, not) is pointless.

 

[Dillinger4]

You should try this amazing thing called reading. Following the reading you try this other amazing thing called thinking about the thing I have just read.

 

[Dillinger4]

Maybe he's genuine.

But answering the question (such as it needs to be answered further, not) is pointless.

I reckon he knows what I am saying.

But there is no easy easy soundbite for him yet.

 

[max_freakout]

Have a thought

do you really 'have' your thoughts?

is 'having' really an appropriate description of the relation between you and your thoughts?

 

[cesare]

You should try this amazing thing called reading. Following the reading you try this other amazing thing called thinking about the thing I have just read.

Can we just let them talk amongst themselves while we carry on the main discussion? Alternatively, there's a concurrent discussion notched up a level elsewhere if you're interested?

 

[Dillinger4]

do you really 'have' your thoughts?

is 'having' really an appropriate description of the relation between you and your thoughts?

Nicely avoided. I like the use of more stupid questions to quietly move on.

You have read Merleau-Ponty? There is your answer to the questions in that post.

 

[i-am-your-idea]

Because you are gullible enough to believe things that are dangerous to the safety of the rest of us.

these ideas could kill you!

 

[max_freakout]

quietly move on.

if you don't want to quietly move on, then please answer my question about your comment about 'safety of the rest of us'

 

[max_freakout]

Can we just let them talk amongst themselves?

lol @ that ^ question

can you?

 

[i-am-your-idea]

.

 

[cesare]

lol @ that ^ question

can you?

I can. But my question was to Dill, not you.

 

[merlin wood]

I read the review of that book, it sounds brilliant.

It is on my shopping list.

I'd say The Trouble with Physics should be compulsory reading for anyone thinking about studying theoretical physics. I'd say any objective assessmant of Smolin's account of string theory would conclude that it's a theoretical dead end and hence it's cultish defence by string theorists.

Also, I strongly recommend ch. 13 for some fascinating evidence of serious conflict between the real universe and present theory.

 

[Dillinger4]

if you don't want to quietly move on, then please answer my question about your comment about 'safety of the rest of us'

What about the rest of that post?

*comfortably predicts max to say "answer my question first" in avoidance*