Cubase SX3

[Th3 Saint]

Sniff sniff... that a freshly opened can of worms?

And having met a few people involved in producing the stuff, companies are really feeling the strain - a lot of those synths you love and effects that sound so cool are made by very small groups of people, and if they aren't getting the money you won't get any more software, simple as that.

It's all true! And yet...

(A lot of) Software is extortionately priced! Thus driving users to opt for pirated software... and causing the price of software to go up! Catch 22 baby!

Chicken or the egg... what will cause the price to come down?? All the pirates deciding to buy their software all of a sudden, or the software co's taking a hit and dropping their prices?

From my experience with companies (ones that intend to make a profit) will get as much money out of you as they possibly can... They cut jobs, push up prices, post record profits and give their CEO's a million pound bonus! (Maybe not Steinberg and Native Instruments... But plenty others out there!)

An idea that I had, and have started to work with is this:
That the companies should pay for their software, and that home users should get it for free! Works for me so far!

If I were ever to make money from my music I'd be more than happy to purchase licenses for my software! For a start, I'd be able to afford it!

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

(A lot of) Software is extortionately priced! Thus driving users to opt for pirated software... and causing the price of software to go up! Catch 22 baby!

Music software nowadays is cheap. Look at what you get - For one or two hundred quid you get synths that in hardware form would either be impossible to build or cost thousands, and you can replace several rackfulls of processing gear and effects for a similar outlay.

If you don't want to spend a couple of hundred quid, or can't afford to do so, look at the free stuff. Crystal is a good example of a fantastic legit free synth (and there a loads more like it out there), and the Kjaerhus Classic series of effects are excellent as well.

 

[Th3 Saint]

Music software nowadays is cheap. Look at what you get - For one or two hundred quid you get synths that in hardware form would either be impossible to build or cost thousands, and you can replace several rackfulls of processing gear and effects for a similar outlay.

I don't deny it! I fully realise the cost of rack mounted modules and individual articles, porta-studios etc

Perhaps my beef is more with the companies such as Microsoft and the like...

As I say If/when I make money from my music I will be happy to pay for legit versions. But until then I don't see the point, just as I don't contact relevant parties to clear the use of samples if I have no intention to publish my work.

I understand it doesn't matter if I'm publishing my work or not, I'm still using the software... I'd much rather stick with the software I intend to go on with, than chopping and changing to various freeware versions... This way Steinberg stand a better chance of getting a license fee off me sooner! As I will be more familiar with their products and hopefully will make better music as a result!

 

[diond]

Trouble is, I'm more and more these days coming round to the idea that pirated software is a very bad thing indeed.

For starters, I now rely on cubase etc for part of my income, so I can't afford for dodgy copies to crash on me.

And having met a few people involved in producing the stuff, companies are really feeling the strain - a lot of those synths you love and effects that sound so cool are made by very small groups of people, and if they aren't getting the money you won't get any more software, simple as that.

At the end of the day there are tons of really good free synths/effects out there, play with them. If you want the pro gear, pay the price....


<dons flameproof suit>

No, what you say seems fine to me. However, there are one or two points I'd like to mention. You say go and use the freebie synths and effects, which again is fair comment. Nonetheless, I fail to see how this effects the pro software anymore than the same person using cracked versions of the professional stuff? Either way, the professional loses out.

What would be a perfect is scenario is what you've chosen to do. You've used the cracked professional stuff (a presumption but tell me if I'm wrong), got competent/ good with it, started to make money because of your experience with the professional software, and thus decided that you'd like to pay back towards all the research and development that you took advantage of when it was cracked by buying it legitimately.

Many people take this route, and there was even talk that Steinberg and other software houses actively encouraged people to pirate their software to hopefully gain possible market advantage against their rivals. This relies heavily on those who use the pirated software to buy the real thing once they start getting to grips with it, granted, but it's an interesting tact all the same.

In a round about way, you've actually shown that using pirated is beneficial to you and the software company in the long run. You've just not outrightly condoned piracy in its literal sense, that's all. I think it comes down to whether you have a conscience as to whether you decide to buy once you are making money out of it or not.

 

[diond]

Just an update to say that there is an unofficial version of Cubase SX3 released by H2O.
That is all.

 

[NAOC]

yo thats hard to believe you can find nuendo 3 but not sx 3 thats craze

 

[lobster]

if cubase doesn't get enough money to profit, the project could go to the gpl licence, other software has because of lack of money, the program continues but with more developers.

i am not a expert of audi software, ive found a few free alternatives to cubase.

http://www.ardour.org/
http://muse-sequencer.org/
http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
http://www.metadecks.org/software/sweep/index.html

 

[Krenzathal]

I have downloaded just about every version of the H2O crack of Cubase Sx.3 off of emule and absolutly none of them have worked!

The farthest I got was getting the program to load up but whenever I tried to start a project it just crashed every time, all the others just didn't load up or I got an error screen when I clicked on the Icon.

I've got two more versions downloading right now but after that I've run out of things to download so I'm wondering if anyone actually has a good working copy of the H2O crack SX.3 that they'd be willing to share. (Or does one even exist)

I want it to try it out before buying the official version. Trial versions are rubbish in my opinion and I'm not willing to fork out all that money until I'm sure I like it and that means using it for a good few months. But I do buy official versions for the support offered, and I need that because it's my career and I can't afford anything going wrong that I can't get help with.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

I want it to try it out before buying the official version

They are up to version 4 now, and it sucks monkey balls