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Crystal Palace 2017/18

Discussion in 'football' started by SE25, Jun 26, 2017.

  1. hash tag

    hash tag Pedicabo omnes

    I had to visit a client in a house full of pensioners yesterday. One of them said that they had put a bet on us to go down and also that FDB will be gone before we no it. I despise talk of getting rid of a manager before they have barely started. Give the guy a chance. It is rare for someone to walk into a job, a challenging job at that, and get instant success. :(:mad:
     
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  2. alsoknownas

    alsoknownas some bloke

    The problem with FdB is not that he is not getting results, that often happens at the beginning of a managers tenure (happened to Allardyce last season, Fergie at Man U, etc.); it's more that he is arguably showing actual incompetence at this stage. We seem badly prepared for matches, both in our awareness of how our opponents operate, and how we deploy our own system. He has talked convincingly about 'evolution not revolution', but in reality he has tried to change too much too quickly, with almost every player in the side having to learn a new role. Added to that he doesn't seem to understand our squad very well, despite having a full pre-season with them - Luka seems like a shadow of last season's player, Ward seems completely perplexed by what he's being asked to do, Shlupp is being royally underused despite being fairly perfect for De Boers system. For whatever reason, there is now no movement off the ball from any of the front players, who look genuinely confused as to how to develop the attack.

    I'm one for backing managers. Not just for half a season either. I feel that one full season and one full pre-season is the *minimum* for starting to evaluate a managers impact at a club. But the manager has to be of a sufficient competency to begin with, and Parish may have made a mistake on this one. I say may, because there is still time for things to turn around. Not much time mind you, because we don't have a quarter of a season to just toss away and experiment. If FdB is to stay, and I like the man and admire his ambitions for the club, he has to demonstrate (and fast) some willingness to adapt, suss out the opposition, put a well drilled team on the field, and balance ambition with pragmatism particularly with regard to playing to our existing player's strengths.
     
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  3. hash tag

    hash tag Pedicabo omnes

    the season is 3 matches old. The are 35 odd matches to go. It is not a sprint, it is more of a marathon. Give the guy a chance.
    Notwithstanding, do we really want to be known as the club who have hired and fired more managers than the pensioners?
     
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  4. ffsear

    ffsear Well-Known Member

    Needs to drop this "total football" crap..

    Allardyce tried playing 3 at the back once.. That was the 0-4 thrashing by Sunderland at home.
     
  5. sealion

    sealion If you can't dance just nod your head

    What are the odds for palace to finally get off the mark this weekend and score a goal ?
     
  6. hash tag

    hash tag Pedicabo omnes

    Score...brothel? Drugs?
    no chance
     
  7. hash tag

    hash tag Pedicabo omnes

  8. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp

     
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  9. ffsear

    ffsear Well-Known Member

    Thought we played well, Dominated much of the game. Just cant find the back on the net. Think FDB deserves a bit more time.
     
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  10. SE25

    SE25 1 sec lemme chat about road

    agreed, not the game to get rid. Annoying he didn't have Luka in front of the back 4 with YC and JM in front (and Punch on the bench where he fucking belongs) today though, in that role he was great for us last season
     
  11. bromley

    bromley ...isn't as good as Lewisham.

    Goal of the month is going to be interesting.
     
  12. ffsear

    ffsear Well-Known Member

    FDB sacked!
     
  13. ffsear

    ffsear Well-Known Member

  14. bromley

    bromley ...isn't as good as Lewisham.

    :D
     
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  15. sealion

    sealion If you can't dance just nod your head

    Frank Defeat
     
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  16. passenger

    passenger up and down...

    I Was bang on :facepalm: I thought we played well at Burnley if one of our chances had gone in
    he would still be in a Job I really hope they have someone who is ready to take over or we could be fucked.
     
  17. passenger

    passenger up and down...

    I give you that one very good :p
     
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  18. Reiabuzz

    Reiabuzz Well-Known Member

    £5m. Nice few months work for frank.

    Attempting to play total Barca football with the shower in their ranks was never going to work.

    As an aside, Wood for Burnley seems very good business at £15m.
     
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  19. bromley

    bromley ...isn't as good as Lewisham.

    Apparently Frank will get a £6m compensation package. :)
     
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  20. sealion

    sealion If you can't dance just nod your head

    Admin number 3
     
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  21. bromley

    bromley ...isn't as good as Lewisham.

    There should be a third strike and your out rule.

    Rumours of Hodgeson taking over. He'll keep them up again. :(
     
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  22. alsoknownas

    alsoknownas some bloke

    By League 1 standards that must seem an unimaginable fortune.
     
  23. bromley

    bromley ...isn't as good as Lewisham.

     
  24. alsoknownas

    alsoknownas some bloke

    I thought it was promotion you were generally managing to avoid ;).
     
  25. S☼I

    S☼I Comic sans routine

    £77922 and change PER DAY
     
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  26. The39thStep

    The39thStep Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbour?

    Ridiculous decision
     
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  27. BCBlues

    BCBlues Lend us a Twenner

    You have this year :D
     
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  28. Reiabuzz

    Reiabuzz Well-Known Member

    I quite enjoyed this, from today's Fiver

    AT LEAST THEY TRIED
    Crystal Palace have always had progressive tendencies. Often this has been manifest in the club’s clobber: the modernist CP logo of the early 70s; the time they wore their numbers on their sleeves; the white shirt with iconic blue-and-red diagonal sash. Other times it becomes apparent in their style of play, as anyone who recalls the fun side built by Terry Venables back in the day will attest. No doubt the fact that the self-styled Team of the Eighties got themselves relegated from the top flight in 1981 and didn’t get back until 1989, the entire decade they were supposed to define having passed them by, will be painted by some as hubristic failure on an epic scale. But only by cynics whose price-to-value ratio is all out of whack. At least Palace aimed for the stars. At least they tried.

    More: Crystal Palace to appoint Roy Hodgson after sacking Frank de Boer
    That frontier spirit never dies, and this summer Palace took another brave new direction, this time deciding to turn themselves into English football’s answer to Ajax. It was the only logical progression after the Tony Pulis, Alan Pardew and Sam Allardyce eras. But sadly, grand hopes have once again turned to dust in short order. Having given their ambitious root-and-branch project nearly 370 minutes once you factor in stoppages, the plug has been pulled on manager Frank de Boer, whose 77-day, four-game reign, literally pointless in more ways than one, makes transient Charlton sensation Les Reed look like the lovechild of Lord Ferg and Guy Roux.

    De Boer could be forgiven for wondering what the hell just happened back there, and whether he’d have been given a little more time had Christian Benteke not blasted over at Anfield from six yards, or if Scott Dann managed to score at Burnley yesterday by guiding the ball home from tap-in range with the top of his confused face. But Palace couldn’t wait forever for results to improve, and so they’ll replace the only man to win four consecutive Dutch titles with a bloke whose career highlights consist of losing the 1997 Euro Vase final, losing the 2010 Euro Vase final, signing Paul Konchesky for Liverpool, and going on a lovely boat trip down the Seine because it’s only Iceland next.

    Some may argue that the imminent appointment of Mr Roy demonstrates a lack of joined-up thinking, especially as chairman Steve Parish was active on social media atrocity Twitter last night, calling for “some sense” and for everyone to “stick together”, what with the season being just four matches old. But as far as The Fiver’s concerned, this episode is yet another commendable example of how Palace are always thinking, always looking forward, always prepared to bravely explore another new avenue. And at least they’re trying!
     
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  29. hash tag

    hash tag Pedicabo omnes

    FFS :mad:

    I did suggest Hodgson last season; Croydon resident, Ruskin old boy, retired England manager. Radio 4 were saying earlier Hodgson was in the frame; I reckon he is much to old. Laughable.
     
  30. Casual Observer

    Casual Observer Well-Known Member

    Not really a Palace fan but am surprised to see that Dougie Freedman was back as 'sporting director'. Maybe worth a punt for the manager's job at 17/2.
     

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