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brogdale

Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Visited the Dog & Bull in Surrey St. for the first time yesterday. Liked the Xmas eve vibe with traders etc. and the 'Winter Warmer' was in tip top condition, but...boy did it seem pricey after 'spoons.

How is this place regarded by CroyUrbz pub-going cognoscenti?

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ATOMIC SUPLEX

Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
In the end we made it to 11

The Clifton Arms
The Beer Cabin (I know)
The Cherry Tree
The Shevedine Goathouse
The Portland Arms
The Joiners Arms
The Claret and Ale
The Alma
The Builders Arms
The George
The Green Dragon :thumbs:

There is a lack of pubs open after 1am in Croydon and we could not face a bar

We wasted a bit of time in the earlier pubs and got a bit side tracked by a brexit debate in the joiners arms but overall we did good
Missed the oval not far from the builders, famousish for being the local in peep show.
 

skyscraper101

0891 50 50 50
I don’t venture often to Croydon but had to do some home office related stuff and I went in that boxpark place. It seemed okay though for a quick bite and a drink. A DJ was playing some old school disco and there were lots of food options and mirrorballs and colourful lights. The staff were all pretty friendly too.
 

Guineveretoo

Mostly bewildered
Visited the Dog & Bull in Surrey St. for the first time yesterday. Liked the Xmas eve vibe with traders etc. and the 'Winter Warmer' was in tip top condition, but...boy did it seem pricey after 'spoons.

How is this place regarded by CroyUrbz pub-going cognoscenti?

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It’s a good pub - unspoilt. Interesting customers.

We had an urban meet in there a few years ago.
 
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Callie

Pivoting
Visited the Dog & Bull in Surrey St. for the first time yesterday. Liked the Xmas eve vibe with traders etc. and the 'Winter Warmer' was in tip top condition, but...boy did it seem pricey after 'spoons.

How is this place regarded by CroyUrbz pub-going cognoscenti?

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It's nice enough not been in there for a while. while.Youngs ales on but limited beyond that. Garden is RAMMED in summer.
 

brogdale

Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
The pall of smoke from the Shurguard fire last night (around midnight). I initially thought this was from the fireworks in town, but it was from the Purley Way blaze. :(

Tram & A23 still closed!

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brogdale

Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Took a few pics of the Shurguard storage fire and the dreadful pall over smoke hanging over Central & South Croydon; feel really sorry for the folk in the estates just down-wind the other side of the A23:(

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Guineveretoo

Mostly bewildered
It went on for hours, that fire! :eek: And lots of people have lost whatever they were storing. Including a small business in Penge which upcycles furniture - they announced on Facebook today that they are closing the business down partly as a result of this.

It will, presumably, have included people's furniture and personal belongings.

What a nightmare for lots of people, as well as those who directly experienced the fire!
 

brogdale

Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
It went on for hours, that fire! :eek: And lots of people have lost whatever they were storing. Including a small business in Penge which upcycles furniture - they announced on Facebook today that they are closing the business down partly as a result of this.

It will, presumably, have included people's furniture and personal belongings.

What a nightmare for lots of people, as well as those who directly experienced the fire!
Indeed; there'll be some huge losses, especially for folk storing between homes etc. There'll be some grim insurance wrangles, I'd imagine?
 

brogdale

Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
That smoke was properly horrible, and seemed quit smoggy with all the water being poured onto the fire.

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Guineveretoo

Mostly bewildered
Indeed; there'll be some huge losses, especially for folk storing between homes etc. There'll be some grim insurance wrangles, I'd imagine?
Yeah - somebody was saying that, although it will, presumably, be covered by Shurgard's insurance policy, people will have to prove the value of what they were storing in order to claim and, since it is self storage, they won't have had to show what is in there...
 

joffy

Well-Known Member
I've not posted in many years now, but I've got a unit!!! Took it out on 17/12/18!!, I'm only glad that I had so little in place. It's all a write off. Time will tell if my insurance pays out.
 

Poi E

Well-Known Member
Best of luck, joffy.

Read a bloody sad story of a guy who collected vintage pinball machines and was restoring them for his business. All gone and irreplaceable.

Be interested to understand the fire code for these sorts of places. Would think discrete sprinklers in each unit would be the norm?
 

Miss-Shelf

I'll meet you further on up the road
I've not posted in many years now, but I've got a unit!!! Took it out on 17/12/18!!, I'm only glad that I had so little in place. It's all a write off. Time will tell if my insurance pays out.
I hope you get enough insurance paid.
What a pain

Along with people loising treasued things, so many businesses and charities e.g. food banks, use self storage in London , this fire must have affected a lot of people badly
 

Chz

Stark Raving Sane
Discrete sprinklers for each unit would be unthinkable at current prices! AFAIK (though I am most certainly not an expert), only the building itself has to have a fire suppression system. There also exists a very long list of things that aren't supposed to go into storage containers; such that they don't burn the place down. And I suspect everyone is a bit loose in applying the rules there.
 

Guineveretoo

Mostly bewildered
It is still smoking, and still causing chaos on the roads and the trams. (Or, at least, it was last night)

I think it has been a disaster for a lot of individuals and small businesses locally :(
 
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brogdale

Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
So, fellow CroyUrbz...I had a quiet day pouring over my TfL map to see just how far I could get from West Croydon (off-peak) for £1.50 single fare...and here's what I found & mapped. I'm sure much of this is well known, but I was pleasantly surprised by the range afforded by use of pink readers (travel validators). This map/research effectively ignores Zone 1 as it is a £ guzzler:mad:

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The green highlighted lines show where you can get to using either the London Overground or London Tram.
The red dots (numbered P1 to P6) are the stations with Pink Readers (route validators) that you can touch-in on the route to prove that you've not entered the expensive Zone 1 (the ring of salmon pink on my map). This (independent) website gives a useful explanation of using the pinks).

Basically, the whole of the London Tram is just £1.50 and don't forget that, if changed within 1 hour (actually 70 mins) additional bus journeys can be made at no extra cost (The "hopper fare").
Using the London Overground it is possible, for £1.50 single fare, to get as far as:
  1. Clapham Junction (use Pink reader @ Surrey Quays)
  2. Bermondsey ( Jubilee line change @ Canada Water)*
  3. Stratford ( Jubilee line change @ Canada Water)*
  4. Island Gardens, King George V, Beckton & Stratford International ( Docklands Light Railway change @ Shadwell)*
  5. Upminster ( District Line change @ Whitechapel)*
  6. Epping ( Central Line change @ Whitechapel & then Mile End)*
  7. West Hampstead ( London Overground (use Pink reader @ Stratford)
  8. Walthamstow Central ( Victoria line use Pink reader @ Stratford & Highbury + Islington or Hackney Central)
  9. Cockfosters ( Piccadilly line use Pink reader @ Stratford & Highbury + Islington)
The journeys marked with an * should not require any pink readers; they are 'default' to £1.50 journeys as far as I can see.

Top tips to pay only £1.50:
  • Avoid Zone 1 (especially the 'sneaky' :mad: Shoreditch High Street on the London Overground which is in Zone 1)
  • Travel after 9.30am & not between 4.00pm & 7.00pm
  • Use the pink readers where needed.
Happy travelling & please don't bill me if I've got any of this wrong!:D If you're in any doubt about a particular journey you can always use the 'Single fare finder' facility on TfL's own site:-

Single fare finder
 

ATOMIC SUPLEX

Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
So, fellow CroyUrbz...I had a quiet day pouring over my TfL map to see just how far I could get from West Croydon (off-peak) for £1.50 single fare...and here's what I found & mapped. I'm sure much of this is well known, but I was pleasantly surprised by the range afforded by use of pink readers (travel validators). This map/research effectively ignores Zone 1 as it is a £ guzzler:mad:

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The green highlighted lines show where you can get to using either the London Overground or London Tram.
The red dots (numbered P1 to P6) are the stations with Pink Readers (route validators) that you can touch-in on the route to prove that you've not entered the expensive Zone 1 (the ring of salmon pink on my map). This (independent) website gives a useful explanation of using the pinks).

Basically, the whole of the London Tram is just £1.50 and don't forget that, if changed within 1 hour (actually 70 mins) additional bus journeys can be made at no extra cost (The "hopper fare").
Using the London Overground it is possible, for £1.50 single fare, to get as far as:
  1. Clapham Junction (use Pink reader @ Surrey Quays)
  2. Bermondsey ( Jubilee line change @ Canada Water)*
  3. Stratford ( Jubilee line change @ Canada Water)*
  4. Island Gardens, King George V, Beckton & Stratford International ( Docklands Light Railway change @ Shadwell)*
  5. Upminster ( District Line change @ Whitechapel)*
  6. Epping ( Central Line change @ Whitechapel & then Mile End)*
  7. West Hampstead ( London Overground (use Pink reader @ Stratford)
  8. Walthamstow Central ( Victoria line use Pink reader @ Stratford & Highbury + Islington or Hackney Central)
  9. Cockfosters ( Piccadilly line use Pink reader @ Stratford & Highbury + Islington)
The journeys marked with an * should not require any pink readers; they are 'default' to £1.50 journeys as far as I can see.

Top tips to pay only £1.50:
  • Avoid Zone 1 (especially the 'sneaky' :mad: Shoreditch High Street on the London Overground which is in Zone 1)
  • Travel after 9.30am & not between 4.00pm & 7.00pm
  • Use the pink readers where needed.
Happy travelling & please don't bill me if I've got any of this wrong!:D If you're in any doubt about a particular journey you can always use the 'Single fare finder' facility on TfL's own site:-

Single fare finder
What a wonderful map, do you think you can make a sexy pdf version?
 
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