Aladdin
John 3:16 Mathew 4:19 16:26 John 14:6 8:32
Why?
Croydon Cat Killer
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Why?
Pickman's model
sunset spires and twilight woods
Which bits do you not find very offensive bollocks?
Aladdin
John 3:16 Mathew 4:19 16:26 John 14:6 8:32
Thirty percent of children who have witnessed domestic abuse etc etc It’s the worst kind of sloppy low quality ‘science’ presented with little to no thought. Unfortunately the area of psychology seems rife with this kind of stigmatising stuff.
Aladdin
John 3:16 Mathew 4:19 16:26 John 14:6 8:32
They're pretty much saying that the stats show that less than 1 in 3 children who have experienced domestic violence can go on to assault / abuse a pet.
I doubt that the figure is one "created" by the psychologist who wrote the article or indeed any psychologist.
What percentage do you think it might be?
Aladdin
John 3:16 Mathew 4:19 16:26 John 14:6 8:32
Animal abuse and domestic violence.
"The mistreatment and abuse of animals is a significant indicator of violence towards humans, up to and including intimate partner abuse, sexual assault, rape, murder. All too often mental health professionals and prosecutors miss the seriousness of any cruelty towards animals and the significant role animal cruelty plays in the perpetuation of violent and non-violent criminal behavior. The literature supports that animal cruelty is one of the earliest markers for future acts of both violent and nonviolent criminal behaviors. Whether animal cruelty occurs prior to or subsequent to witnessing or experiencing any type of abuse is unknown. What is known is the connections between experiencing abuse, witnessing domestic abuse, and animal cruelty. This means that the directionality of cruelty to animals is not always clear, that is, which occurs first, the negative environmental factors (abuse) or animal cruelty"
medcraveonline.com
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"recently however, that researchers have demonstrated the correlation between non-accidental injury in animals, and abuse of women by their intimate male partners. A growing body of evidence suggests that animal abuse can be an early indicator for other forms of violent behaviour. This research includes the responses of a sample of 23 women using refuge services in the Republic of Ireland. It investigates the connection between domestic violence and animal abuse, and ascertains if there is sufficient support service for animals and people relevant to domestic abuse. In the survey population, 57% of women reported witnessing one or more forms of abuse, or threats of abuse, of their pets. Five of which were reported to have resulted in the death of the pet."
irishvetjournal.biomedcentral.com
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awionline.org
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It is a quote..
More research.
I am putting this in a spoiler as it may be triggering for some. Sorry..
I am putting this in a spoiler as it may be triggering for some. Sorry..
Animal cruelty, pet abuse & violence: the missed dangerous connection
The mistreatment and abuse of animals is a significant indicator of violence towards humans, up to and including intimate partner abuse, sexual assault, rape, murder. All too often mental health professionals and prosecutors miss the seriousness of any cruelty towards animals and the...
medcraveonline.com
And
"recently however, that researchers have demonstrated the correlation between non-accidental injury in animals, and abuse of women by their intimate male partners. A growing body of evidence suggests that animal abuse can be an early indicator for other forms of violent behaviour. This research includes the responses of a sample of 23 women using refuge services in the Republic of Ireland. It investigates the connection between domestic violence and animal abuse, and ascertains if there is sufficient support service for animals and people relevant to domestic abuse. In the survey population, 57% of women reported witnessing one or more forms of abuse, or threats of abuse, of their pets. Five of which were reported to have resulted in the death of the pet."
Animal abuse and intimate partner violence: researching the link and its significance in Ireland - a veterinary perspective - Irish Veterinary Journal
Research on domestic violence has established a substantial association between intimate partner abuse and the abuse of children within the home. It is only recently however, that researchers have demonstrated the correlation between non-accidental injury in animals, and abuse of women by their...
irishvetjournal.biomedcentral.com
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FACT***
Domestic violence, child abuse, and animal abuse frequently occur simultaneously in a family.
- Multiple studies have found that from 49% to 71% of battered women reported that their pets had been threatened, harmed, and or killed by their partners.
- In a national survey, 85% of domestic violence shelters indicated that women coming to their facilities told of incidents of pet abuse.
- According to a survey, women in domestic violence shelters were 11 times more likely to report animal abuse by their partners than was a comparison group of women not experiencing violence.
- A study of 1,283 female pet owners seeking refuge found batterers who abuse pets also used more forms of violence and demonstrated greater use of controlling behaviors.
FACT
Women with pets may delay leaving a dangerous environment for fear of their pets’ safety.
- Across various surveys, between 18% and 48% of battered women delay leaving a dangerous situation out of concern for their pets’ safety.
FACT
Individuals who commit pet abuse are more likely to become batterers.
- Pet abuse was identified as one of the four significant predictors for intimate partner violence in a recent “gold standard” study conducted by Dr. Jacquelyn Campbell and colleagues in three metropolitan areas over a period of seven years.
- A more thorough understanding of the connection between animal abuse and the likelihood of becoming a batterer would better enable us to intervene at one of the earliest possible points and to stop battering before it begins.
FACT
Animal abuse often is linked to the severity of IPV.
- Studies have found a significant association between physical and severe psychological IPV perpetration and a history of animal abuse, as well as an association between pet abuse and controlling behaviors in violent relationships. Moreover, over the past ten years, more and more studies confirm a significant association between animal maltreatment and more frequent and severe forms of intimate partner violence (IPV). These studies included asking women who sought shelter for domestic violence about their experiences, as well as checking court records of men who had been convicted of domestic violence. A revised Danger Assessment instrument designed to predict re-assault in female same-sex relationships included the following question, “Has she threatened to harm a pet, family member, or person with a disability?” At this time it seems clear that seriousness of animal maltreatment is linked to the level of danger to which a domestic violence victim is exposed. This makes it more imperative that both animal protection service/humane law enforcement and human service/law enforcement agencies receive information and training about this connection.
MYTH
Animals abusers represent a distinct type of offender.
- We do not know if this is the case since the studies needed to make this assertion have not been done. We do know, however, that animal abusers frequently commit other types of interpersonal violence (IPV). With that information, we can reasonably assume that the personality characteristics of animal abuse offenders will resemble those of other IPV offenders.
- To assess the level of dangerousness, there are instruments with known reliability and validity that have been used for years by departments of probation and corrections, forensic mental health experts, domestic violence advocates, and others. These instruments could be used with scientific confidence for assessing how dangerous, or psychopathic, an animal abuse offender may be.
MYTH
A safe haven for pets of domestic violence victims is always a place where the pets of domestic violence victims are sheltered in the same area as the family.
- Safe havens come in many different shapes and sizes. In some safe havens, pets do share the same space with the domestic violence survivors. Click here for a list of these types of programs and information on starting one.
- However, there are a variety of ways in which safe havens have organized themselves, depending on the local resources. Some rely on networks of foster care homes or are allowed to use the additional kennel space of a local humane society. Some shelters or humane societies house the pets of domestic violence victims offsite. Often veterinarians are involved. A recent survey of safe havens indicated that a sizeable portion (25%) of safe havens reported some formal relationship with a veterinarian or veterinary association.
- Depending on the local arrangement, family members may be able to visit their pets while they are in safe-keeping. How long a pet may stay in a safe haven again will depend on the local arrangement—some stays are much shorter than others. Confidentiality of the pet’s location is highly guarded in order to protect the pets and their family members.
- For a national listing of all types of safe havens for pets services, see AWI’s Safe Havens Mapping Project.
FACT
Safe havens for pets—offering assistance either with direct service or information to survivors of domestic violence about housing their pets safely—have grown nationally.
- Currently there are approximately 1,200 safe havens for pets nationally."
Facts and Myths About Domestic Violence and Animal Abuse
In the last twenty years, researchers and advocates have learned a lot about how pet abuse and domestic violence are related, and how important this relationship is for early identification of both human and animal victims of abuse. Over time, some information may have become distorted or...
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I think it’s crass to speculate, and that the level of very good quality evidence would have to considerable before anyone spouted off about it. Even if there was enough good quality evidence, it should be presented thoughtfully and in context, and in a trauma aware way. Basically, the opposite of that shite.
Aladdin
John 3:16 Mathew 4:19 16:26 John 14:6 8:32
Very comprehensive Guide for health workers and child protection HSE & TUSLA.
I wasn't able to quote...hope the screenshot can be read. There is mention of cruelty to animals / pets as a form of "acting out".
Ok. I do take your point.
But the basic premise of the research was specific and there was a great deal more involved.
I dont think that presentation of information and discussion implies a lack of awareness of trauma?
Sometimes figures and facts are very much needed. I dont dispute that 30% of children exposed to domestic violence can act out / exhibit abusive behaviours / including injury to a pet.
It's horrific to think about this because children who have witnessed domestic violence have gone through horrendous experiences and even the thought that they can become violent themselves makes their childhood experiences all the more horrific.
I would absolutely agree that there is extensive trauma involved.
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LDC
Normie ultra left and proud
FFS, you seem a smug and nasty prick, on ignore.
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
Could we stick to talking about animals please.
Pickman's model
sunset spires and twilight woods
It would be good if they'd done more than say statistics tell us this. which stats, from where, when, how obtained, etc. That'd fail as an undergraduate essay due to the lack of sources cited.
Aladdin
John 3:16 Mathew 4:19 16:26 John 14:6 8:32
Ok.. not a problem.
I would not dispute that.
However I think that as the article was written with psychologists in mind that the author more than likely expected that the statistical data was known.
Other posts go into more detail. I'm noy trawling through more data as it is already very difficult reading this stuff. And as someone else has already mentioned there is trauma involved.
And I've unfortunately seen how awful situations can get so I am going to take the advice of ElizabethofYork
comrade spurski
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The is some fucked up posts on here tbf.
Pickman's model
sunset spires and twilight woods
Strangely peer-reviewed journals often carry articles replete with references.
Aladdin
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Pickman's model
sunset spires and twilight woods
It's a pity the one you selected makes claims that have to be taken on trust
Aladdin
John 3:16 Mathew 4:19 16:26 John 14:6 8:32
This will be my last post on this as it is already triggering.
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gosub
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I wouldn't recommend watching the film in order to find out
Five years for the cat killer, 10 months for a woman killer
Daniela Espirito Santo reported partner to police seven times before death
Daniela Espirito Santo, from Grantham, was not failed by police, a watchdog says.
www.bbc.co.uk
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
Christ.Five years for the cat killer, 10 months for a woman killer
Daniela Espirito Santo reported partner to police seven times before death
Daniela Espirito Santo, from Grantham, was not failed by police, a watchdog says.www.bbc.co.uk
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Some cunts should just be kicked to death.Five years for the cat killer, 10 months for a woman killer
Daniela Espirito Santo reported partner to police seven times before death
Daniela Espirito Santo, from Grantham, was not failed by police, a watchdog says.www.bbc.co.uk
platinumsage
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He has died in prison of cancer, so it was also the end.
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