Crisis in Ethiopia: PM Resigns amid ongoing protests

Discussion in 'world politics, current affairs and news' started by Idris2002, Feb 15, 2018.

  1. Idris2002

    Idris2002 the liberation forces make movies of their own

    I think this definitely deserves its own thread.

    After several weeks of protests around the country, the sitting Prime Minister of Ethiopia has resigned from both his government post, and from his position as chair of the ruling coalition, the Ethiopian People's Revolutionary Democratic Front.

    Ethiopia PM in surprise resignation

    The EPRDF is officially a coalition of various parties from around Ethiopia, but has always been seen as a front for the TPLF, the Tigray People's Liberation Front, the most northerly province.

    In the old days, the TPLF was controlled (or so it is said) by MALELIT, the Marxist-Leninist League of Tigray. These Hoxhaists became born again capitalists after 1989, but their brand of neo-capitalism was always much more state directed than was usual for those who adapted to neoliberalism in the wake of the fall of the wall in Berlin.

    Now their brand of state-led capitalist development may well be reaching a turning point - and a crisis point.

    What is behind Ethiopia's wave of protests? (from 2016).

    I'll post more on this when I see it.
     
  2. Idris2002

    Idris2002 the liberation forces make movies of their own

  3. Manter

    Manter Lunch Mob

    All I know about Ethiopia is church history and what I have been told by Oromo here and in Calais. So.... not a lot. (Even more difficult to find good info on Eritrea incidentally)

    Anyone/org worth following on twitter?
     
  4. camouflage

    camouflage "marginalia".

    All I know about Ethiopia recently is the role they played as mercenaries to the ongoing US project to fuck about with Somalia. Also their dicator died recently and some guy called Charles Mountain (iirc) was predicting civil war... thankfully that didn't happen.
     
  5. Idris2002

    Idris2002 the liberation forces make movies of their own

    You're thinking of Thomas Mountain. He's a twat, who thinks Eritrea is a socialist country. As for Somalia, every Ethiopian government since the 1940s has had the longterm foreign policy goal of keeping Somalia weak and divided.
     
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  6. camouflage

    camouflage "marginalia".

    Can you say more about the twattery of Thomas Mountain in a manner that sheds more light on Ethiopia please? His claims versus reality sort of thing.

    Although Ethiopia may have wanted to keep Somalia down for ages... it was specifically with the encouragement of the Americans under Bush that the Ethipians went in there to stomp on Somalias slow grassroots muslimic-but-not-jihadi movement to restore rudimentary order to that country. Do you disagree with my thinking on that?
     
  7. Idris2002

    Idris2002 the liberation forces make movies of their own

    To take your second question first, I don't disagree with the basic outline of your thinking. And you're right that the original Islamic Union Courts that emerged after the collapse of the Siad Barre regime weren't looney-tunes Jihadis like the Al-Shabaab. I just wouldn't overestimate the degree to which Ethiopia was acting as a catspaw of Washington.

    Think along those directions, and you'll end up like T. Mountain, who is still living mentally in the heady days of the fall of Saigon.
     
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  8. trabuquera

    trabuquera Modesty Bag

    I recommend camouflage that you read up a bit about the Ogaden War (1978) when the Cold War power politics went precisely the other way, but Ethiopia & Somalia were still massively at odds. This is a long regional conflict that really is not just about socialist-capitalist camp geopolitics, with the socialists always being the good guys. Is it not a bit offensive to keep reading intra-African conflicts only in terms of which outsider backer you agree with or not? (and I do agree with you about Ethiopia's role in stuffing the Islamic Union Courts and US backing there, btw.)
     
  9. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Oddly enough, he wanted a much weaker and more secular version of IUC wiped out via regime barrel bombs in Syria - all muslims being potential fundies of course.
     
  10. camouflage

    camouflage "marginalia".

    Actually I see these intra-African nation-state conflicts as having little to do with socialism versus capitalism even during the cold war, and all about straight colonialism, and then neo-colonialism. Apart from Ethiopia itself, most African nations were the artificial creations of these shady outside backers and their associates anyway, catchement areas for the mines, cash-crop farms, railways and ports of the extracting parties.
     
  11. camouflage

    camouflage "marginalia".

    Speaking nonesense again I see. Most of the SAA are themselves Sunni muslims, most of the victims of Britain and France and Americas 'freedom loving' Jihadist fwends are also Sunni muslims. Anyway all that's another thread.
     
  12. Idris2002

    Idris2002 the liberation forces make movies of their own

    There's an argument that Ethiopia was a participant in the Scramble for Africa, expanding its own borders and territories just as the Eurotrash were doing the same.

    That brought lowland pastoralist and semi-pastoralist populations under Ethiopian rule, rule those populations have experienced as oppressive - something I suspect may be a factor in today's events.
     
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  13. Idris2002

    Idris2002 the liberation forces make movies of their own

    Thread here:

     
  14. petee

    petee i'm spartacus

    i work wirh an ethiopian fellow.

    i: "so i heard a bit of news about ethiopia yesterday."
    he: "yes, well, it's good that it's a peaceful transition of power."

    so, not much there. i didn't want to press it.
     
  15. Idris2002

    Idris2002 the liberation forces make movies of their own

    Today, Eritrea and Ethiopia signed an agreement to finally and fully end the war of 1998-2000.

    Joint Declaration of Peace and Friendship between Eritrea and Ethiopia |

    This is great news - genuinely - but I suspect that Issaias will actually step up repression in Eritrea, and Abiy Ahmed will have to continue riding the tiger when it comes to reform in Ethiopia. But we can worry about that in the morning.
     
  16. Manter

    Manter Lunch Mob

    I listened to a very interesting podcast last week (with Michaela Wrong, among others) that suggested this may cause Eritrea to loosen up a bit as removes 'need' for compulsory military service. Let me find it
     
  17. Manter

    Manter Lunch Mob

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  18. Idris2002

    Idris2002 the liberation forces make movies of their own

    Michela Wrong defriended me on facebook.
     
  19. Manter

    Manter Lunch Mob

  20. petee

    petee i'm spartacus

  21. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    Why not
     

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