Criminal record for overfilling bin

[Bakunin]

There are plenty of threads where we identify the cod-left.

The cod-left is any so-called leftist who didn't grow up on a coucil estate or has a job that involves using biros or computers and doesn't subscribe to a form of soft-maoism that may or may not involve voting tory.

1. I had a rural upbringing.

2. I don't have a job at the moment.

3. I don't subscribe to any form of Maoism, soft or otherwise.

4. I've never voted Tory in my life.

Can I still be a member of the Anarchist Federation, please?

 

[snadge]

What's the punishment for fly-tipping in Iran?

whoops need to change location, I'm in UK now, go back soon though.

 

[bluestreak]

1. I had a rural upbringing.

2. I don't have a job at the moment.

3. I don't subscribe to any form of Maoism, soft or otherwise.

4. I've never voted Tory in my life.

Can I still be a member of the Anarchist Federation, please?

I don't know, I'm sorry. I'm an anarchist too, and I'm not sure if we're also part of the cod-left. I suspect that we may be, even though I'm allergic to fish.

 

[dream_girl]

I'm forming a cod apathetic league

 

[bluestreak]

you mean, you pretend to be apathetic but really you care?

or a league for fish who just couldn't give a shit?

 

[Bakunin]

I'm forming a cod apathetic league

I bet the SWP immediately assume the mantle of its Premier Division.

 

[bluestreak]

The cod-left masquerading as the cod-apathetic. where will it all end?

 

[dream_girl]

you mean, you pretend to be apathetic but really you care?

or a league for fish who just couldn't give a shit?

both - i need the members

 

[Bakunin]

The cod-left masquerading as the cod-apathetic. where will it all end?

If I know the various factions and sects and their shared histories then they'll try and outdo each other in sheer inactivity and lack of effort, just to spite each other and fuck everyone else.

That said, Anarchists might finally get ourselves together enough to exploit the cracks in the Leninist left that are already there.

 

[dream_girl]

If I know the various factions and sects and their shared histories then they'll try and outdo each other in sheer inactivity and lack of effort, just to spite each other and fuck everyone else.

You'll have to look out for the dissafected sharks though

 

[Bakunin]

You'll have to look out for the dissafected sharks though

Indeed, my dear...

NECKSHOTS FOR ALL!

MOOHAHAHAHA!

 

[bluestreak]

That said, Anarchists might finally get ourselves together enough to exploit the cracks in the Leninist left that are already there.

Good call man, after this line of ket though eh?

 

[Bakunin]

Good call man, after this line of ket though eh?

*Sparks up a joint the size of a telegraph pole*

*Switches on stereo and cranks 'Fuck The Police' up to full volume*

*Cracks open can of Strongbow Super*


Yep, I'm ready now...

'TO THE BARRICADES, COMRADES!'

 

[Hocus Eye.]

I thought posterwithnumbers had given up his references to the cod-left. Now here they are back again in full spate. I think that with cod being an endangered species it should be renamed the pollack-left.

On the issue of on-the-spot fines for anything, I think that this is not proper justice. It is abuse of power. In the case of being liable to fines if your bin is overloaded, that is very unfair. There is no way of preventing someone putting their rubbish in your bin to avoid a fine.

Of course the impetus behind the draconian legislation is that the UK has fallen behind with its obligations to conform to regulations agreed to with the rest of the EU. The UK government in its turn is putting the pressure on Local Authorities to increase recycling and to reduce landfill. You friendly neighbourhood council is just following orders. The chief executive will say 'I only work here mate'.

 

[dylanredefined]

Note how the council bods came round with stab-proof vests on.


Wouldn't work. I'd be angry enough for an eye-stab.

Those vests just make me think of the unprotected gaps they show or just go for the face .I have issues I think .

 

[poster342002]

blimey, who's been defending this? Or is that just another figment of your imagination?

Not this specific incident, but the cod-left has long supported shite initiatives like this - either by obfuscation, downplaying it, ducking the issue or simply refusing to comment in any way. At worst, they are prone to portraying councils and their bin-police as heroic workers' acts.

 

[poster342002]

I think that with cod being an endangered species it should be renamed the pollack-left.

More like the pillock-left.

It's all a bit of a misnomer to call these types "left" of any sort, because they're actions and guiding impetus are actually rightwing. They just dress it up in left/green rhetoric.

 

[RedRumsBum]

"and doesn't subscribe to a form of soft-maoism that may or may not involve voting tory."

My head hurts! Help!

 

[RedRumsBum]

More like the pillock-left.

It's all a bit of a misnomer to call these types "left" of any sort, because they're actions and guiding impetus are actually rightwing. They just dress it up in left/green rhetoric.

"right wing" ? I think the word you are looking for is "authoritarian". This isn't a left versus right issue, it's a liberal versus authoritarian issue...or even a "madness" versus "common sense" issue as it would be impossible to enforce without innocent people being tucked up.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

Not this specific incident, but the cod-left has long supported shite initiatives like this - either by obfuscation, downplaying it, ducking the issue or simply refusing to comment in any way. At worst, they are prone to portraying councils and their bin-police as heroic workers' acts.

poster56789345678945678

You don't live in the real world do you? Can you provide a source for anyone, fish or fowl where councils and their bin-police are portrayed as carrying out "heroic workers acts."

I appreciate that you will not be able to supply evidence of someone refusing to comment or ducking the issue.

Are there any particular political groups who comprise your 'cod-left'

 

[Fullyplumped]

Of course the impetus behind the draconian legislation is that the UK has fallen behind with its obligations to conform to regulations agreed to with the rest of the EU. The UK government in its turn is putting the pressure on Local Authorities to increase recycling and to reduce landfill. You friendly neighbourhood council is just following orders. The chief executive will say 'I only work here mate'.

That is exactly what seems to have happened.

Waste Prosecution Information

A Copeland resident was given a warning for overfilling his bin on 20 July 2007. This resident already had a larger 360 litre bin, which is 50% bigger than the standard Copeland wheelie bin.

Following this warning, we also contacted the resident to discuss how they could reduce the amount of waste they produce. We did not receive a response to this request.

Following a further incidence of overfilling the bin, we issued a fixed penalty notice on 24 January 2008.

Following this, we wrote a reminder letter to the resident giving him the opportunity to pay the penalty notice, on 7 February 2008.

The resident chose not to pay the penalty notice, so we took legal action to prosecute for the original offence.

The case was not defended, and Whitehaven Magistrates Court chose to support our prosecution.

The Council gave the resident a number of opportunities to avoid a criminal record, both before and after issuing the fine.

The Council, like many local authorities, aims to reduce the amount of waste it sends to landfill, and offers a range of recycling facilities to help our residents do this. We must also enforce our waste policies to ensure that people do reduce the amount of waste they produce. If we do not follow the waste minimisation agenda that is being enforced nationally then we risk passing on major fines to all Copeland households.

 

[Citizen66]

Surely if you have too much rubbish you would keep the surplus bags until just before the garbage truck arrives before dumping it all into the wanker next door's wheelie bin?

 

[SpookyFrank]

Maybe instead of crapping on the ordinary folks with no power to actually change anything, the government should consider tackling the waste problem by actually funding decent recycling schemes and doing something to regulate the daft amount of superfluous packaging everything comes in these days. By bitching about people throwing too much away the state is at once saying: "keep buying stuff all the fucking time so the economy stays afloat" and: "don't create any waste in the process". Our society is inherently wasteful because it depends entirely on unnecessary consumption. Fining people for playing along with the consumerism game is like giving a puppy a command and then kicking it as reward for its compliance.

 

[poster342002]

Maybe instead of crapping on the ordinary folks with no power to actually change anything, the government should consider tackling the waste problem by actually funding decent recycling schemes and doing something to regulate the daft amount of superfluous packaging everything comes in these days. By bitching about people throwing too much away the state is at once saying 'keep buying stuff all the fucking time so the economy stays afloat' and 'don't create any waste in the process'. Our society is inherently wasteful because it depends entirely on unnecessary consumption. Fining people for playing along with the consumerism game is like giving a puppy a command and then kicking it as reward for its compliance.

Well fucking said! Couldn't have put it better.

And shame on all the excuse-merchants rushing to defend the indefensible.

 

[gentlegreen]

Mr X, who takes home £900 a month, added: "I would have been better off throwing my rubbish across the front garden - at least then I would only have received an £80 fine for fly-tipping.

"It's outrageous what they've done to me. We got a leaflet, like everyone else, nine months previously, explaining the new council policy which also made it a fineable offence for putting your bin out any earlier than 7am - a curfew for a bin.

"My wife and I put it in the recycling box and continued as normal. Then this happens. What can I do? If I didn't pay they said that I could go to prison. They also threatened to clamp my car and send the bailiffs round.

"We recycle everything we can, including plastics, cardboard, tins, glass and paper. We have got a black box that is always full."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=561037&in_page_id=1770

So then, what do you suppose this model recycler (with impeccable grammar) was filling his huge bin with ?

I would love to see it

 

[belboid]

And shame on all the excuse-merchants rushing to defend the indefensible.

who they? where?

 

[snadge]

So then, what do you suppose this model recycler (with impeccable grammar) was filling his huge bin with ?

I would love to see it

That's quite sneering, equating someone with bad grammar as a liar.....

where I live I need to be on red alert for the binmen, if I just put my bin out it doesn't get emptied due to living in an awkward location on a mainish road, I need to see the bin wagon and literally wave it down, if I miss it, that is another fortnight I have to wait, once I never got my bin emptied for 6 months, having to take it to the tip myself.

 

[gentlegreen]

That's quite sneering, equating someone with bad grammar as a liar.....

No, I'm sneering at him because his grammar is suspiciously perfect (in my inexpert opinion) - it looks like it might have been tweaked by the journo. It's better than plenty of undergrads.

 

[bluestreak]

who they? where?

You didn't see it?

 

[poster342002]

We've got people syaing things like "what they actually did was ..." and people making nasty little insinuations about the man's "too good" grammer - as if someone on £900 per month really has no business speaking properly.