Cricket World Cup 2015
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littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Must be a bit weird being a NZ supporter. Used to being the plucky underdogs. I don't think there's any doubt now that anything less than a first final will be a disappointment for this team.
It's all a bit of a false war, all this, though at the moment, isn't it?
It's all a bit of a false war, all this, though at the moment, isn't it?
Although if the aussies qualify third, there's a chance NZ will face them again (i think) before the final, but in Aus this time. Could be a reverse there.
Mumbles274
running from law and the press and the parents
KP shenanigans on again! personally.. I'd like to see him back, I think he's a bit of a dick, but he's a bit of a dick I like to watch bat in an England shirt.. I don't know if any bowlers around the world fear any other of English batsmen as much as they fear an in form KP
SpookyFrank
Don't swallow the cap
I watched that up until the first (only) Sri Lankan wicket fell. Looks like that was a good time to go to sleep tbh.
England just aren't looking like a side that belongs in this tournament. OK we may get a free pass to the next round but whoever we meet in the quarter finals is gonna beat us so why not just fly home now? Stupidly conservative team selections have hurt us as per usual, but mostly we just haven't got enough world class players, or agruably none at all. Buttler and Moeen look pretty good, other than that there's nobody there that any proper cricketer is gonna be worried about playing against.
England just aren't looking like a side that belongs in this tournament. OK we may get a free pass to the next round but whoever we meet in the quarter finals is gonna beat us so why not just fly home now? Stupidly conservative team selections have hurt us as per usual, but mostly we just haven't got enough world class players, or agruably none at all. Buttler and Moeen look pretty good, other than that there's nobody there that any proper cricketer is gonna be worried about playing against.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Watched the England innings before going to bed. I suspected that it wouldn't be enough. Morgan is blaming the bowling/fielding, but from what I saw of the batting, they missed a chance to go for 350 in order to guarantee getting 270-280. Balance is in horrible form. Morgan not much better. Bell started in the right way, taking chances, then went into his shell against the might of Dilshan and Matthews.
I just think England don't get the new thinking in 50-over cricket, which has definitely come from t20. Hit a four first ball of the over, then knock it around for singles - a four, four singles and a dot, and that's 8 in the over. Job done. Wrong. Hit a four first ball, then if it's there to hit it, try to hit a six next ball. Forget about what has come the ball before, if you can hit a boundary, go for it, and it's worth taking calculated risks, even early on, even in the middle of the innings.
Buttler gets it. Not sure who else does, tbh. Ali - he takes risks to score. Not sure who else.
The team that wins this WC will not win with careful, risk-averse cricket. And that team will most certainly not be England. They are nowhere near atm. They've been left behind.
I just think England don't get the new thinking in 50-over cricket, which has definitely come from t20. Hit a four first ball of the over, then knock it around for singles - a four, four singles and a dot, and that's 8 in the over. Job done. Wrong. Hit a four first ball, then if it's there to hit it, try to hit a six next ball. Forget about what has come the ball before, if you can hit a boundary, go for it, and it's worth taking calculated risks, even early on, even in the middle of the innings.
Buttler gets it. Not sure who else does, tbh. Ali - he takes risks to score. Not sure who else.
The team that wins this WC will not win with careful, risk-averse cricket. And that team will most certainly not be England. They are nowhere near atm. They've been left behind.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I'm a pragmatist about the ipl. I think the international calendar needs to make space for it - with perhaps a concession from the ipl to trim a week off itself. As I said upthread, it's ridiculous and really disappointing that NZ's best players will be arriving in England two days before the first test this year. That's not good enough. The ipl isn't going away, and countries like NZ cannot afford to pay players not to play in it, so space needs to be made. England seem to act as if the ipl didn't exist, which is arrogant and damaging.
International cricket needs to be rationalised. The new odi-only tours that are springing up all over the place are totally pointless and should be scrapped. Domestic leagues now exist that can give players an income, and they need to be given space. Do that by scrapping pointless tours.
International cricket needs to be rationalised. The new odi-only tours that are springing up all over the place are totally pointless and should be scrapped. Domestic leagues now exist that can give players an income, and they need to be given space. Do that by scrapping pointless tours.
One of the really great benefits of the IPL, Big Bash, whatever, is that your young players, Joe Root, Stokes etc, will be sharing dressing rooms, having nets with and learning from the likes of Sangakarra, McCullum, Clarke etc. Hell, even KP would be a good influence on this current lot 
The ECB is insane to ignore it.
The ECB is insane to ignore it.
treefrog
Saddle up
They gave Afghanistan their first win though. Which is a bit ace
Mumbles274
running from law and the press and the parents
any streams for Aus v SL? My usual ones showing Skygo error message 
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Oh dear. Up to Jos Buttler, now, it seems.
FFS 
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Well done, Bangladesh.
Fuck me, England.
I suspected this result might happen today. What a shambles.
Fuck me, England.
I suspected this result might happen today. What a shambles.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Just tuned into TMS - oh dear... Aggers and Boycott are not happy...
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Peter Moores making some poor excuses by the looks of reports of his interviews. 'We lost Jonathan Trott'? Seems to be blaming defeat on the loss of the team's two South Africans.
SpookyFrank
Don't swallow the cap
Buttler is a Saffa is he not? e2a: Nope, actually born in England. I'm thinking of the other one, Bedwetter.
And Trott was never much of an ODI batsman, he never seemed able to get out of patiently plodding along mode.
SpookyFrank
Don't swallow the cap
Well I'm glad we're out already. It would have been an injustice if we'd qualified really.
Yet again snatching defeat from the jaws of victory 
Bring KP back you fucking fools
Bring KP back you fucking fools
I do actually feel sorry for Moores and Morgan. They inherited a shower of shite. Anderson and Broad are well past their use by date and the new centrally contracted players are pretty much all county standard, not international. Bringing back KP would be a very temporary fix - they have to allow their players to join the IPL auction, altho I don't think many would be picked up tbh. Root looks classy, so does Ali, but that's it. Shambles.
It must be a very weird dressing room to be sitting in ahead of the Afghan game. Almost seems cruel to even make them play it.
It must be a very weird dressing room to be sitting in ahead of the Afghan game. Almost seems cruel to even make them play it.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
You forgot Buttler. He's probably England's best one-day player. Agree about Root. For me the jury's out on Ali, but he may come good.
The lack of batting nous is a big problem. For that reason, I think Bell's odi career should end here. Bopara has that nous - it's not a coincidence that the ipl has picked him up, and that they should do that while England don't even pick him is a big puzzle.
Thing is, you look at that batting line-up and it appears to be promising. They've just collectively lost the confidence to play without fear, Ali and Buttler excepted.
The lack of batting nous is a big problem. For that reason, I think Bell's odi career should end here. Bopara has that nous - it's not a coincidence that the ipl has picked him up, and that they should do that while England don't even pick him is a big puzzle.
Thing is, you look at that batting line-up and it appears to be promising. They've just collectively lost the confidence to play without fear, Ali and Buttler excepted.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
The aussies would try buttler at #3,or maybe even open with him (and buttler can bat very differently than a madcap 5 overs). But our management is so cowardly that will never happen. They never try things.
