CRB check

[Blagsta]

That link says that it's up to the organisations whether you need a new one or not.

 

[LilMissHissyFit]

What may well happen is that if you show your existing one they will be happy to see it but will make you complete another form anyway

 

[Blagsta]

I've never heard of any organisation being happy with an old one, but according to the CRB website, it's possible.

 

[LilMissHissyFit]

I know they used to be 3-4 years ago but the rules appear to have tightened on employers being responsible for having a CRB for each of their employees. Relying on an old one is dodgy for them. Unfortunately it means I now have 5!

 

[stuff_it]

I re-used my one form agency care work for 2 years till it ran out, but my mum says that for teaching you need a new one for every school/agency you work for, making freelance supply work impossible.

I reckon it depends what line of work you're in.

 

[zog]

CRB checks should be done at shortlisting stage or when they offer you a job. They should also be destroyed after they've made the decision whether to employ you or not. Asking for one from every applicant contravenes the Data Protection Act afaik.

They need to be kept in some sectors for statutory reasons. e.g. for the care standards inspectorate.

 

[pembrokestephen]

The situation about CRB checks is a complete balls up. My wife was going to have to pay out £48 for every job application because each application requires the employer to have a CRB check done. (Which when someone on JSA only gets £59 and a few pennies a week is a totally ludicrous situation.)
That was the situation at the start of July. I kicked up a fuss with my MP about it, and he took it up with the relavant minister. I had a phone call from JobCentre Plus regional HQ in Briston and apparently JobCentre plus are going to have to cough up with the £48 evertime anyone on JSA applies for job that needs CRB check, until the rules can be changed.

That is weird.

Because I've taken two jobs in the last year (ok, one was an unpaid clinical placement), both requiring enhanced disclosures, and in both cases, the employer organised (and paid for) the CRB check.

As I understand it, it works a bit like a reference - they tend to CRB check you once they've decided you fit the criteria, not on application. I think I'd probably tell a potential employer who demanded I pay for my own CRB check to fuck off.

 

[Blagsta]

They need to be kept in some sectors for statutory reasons. e.g. for the care standards inspectorate.

It was my understanding that keeping them would breach the Data Protection Act.

 

[pembrokestephen]

As has been pointed out to you by several people SOME jobs cannot be applied for without a CRB check being done first. ANY job involving working with vulnerable people comes into that catagory.

Bollocks, chymaera.

Sorry to be so forthright, but I know of TWO jobs "involving working with vulnerable people" that didn't come into that category. I know this, because I have both jobs.

And if that makes me a drug-using, rave-attending arsebandit, then so be it...

 

[pembrokestephen]

No, they are not transferable.

Between employers.

If she did work for, say, Grotsville NHS Trust, then went elsewhere, and went back to another job in Grotsville NHS Trust within 3 years, even if it was a different job in a different unit, then the CRB check would still be valid. But if she went off to work for Cnutsville NHS Trust up the road, or even for a different employer working within Grotsville NHS Trust premises, she'd need to get a new disclosure.

They're not transferable between employers. Which sucks.

ETA: actually, what sucks almost as much is that, even when you've had one disclosure done, and you have to get another, it still seems to take bloody ages. My first one took 8 weeks, and my current one is still in process, and we're at 6 weeks and counting. Having established most of the immutable stuff (like identity), it should be possible just to do the PNC checks and stuff and get it out. But no.....

 

[WouldBe]

It was my understanding that keeping them would breach the Data Protection Act.

I don't see how it would. IIRC If you keep any records about employees you need to be registered under the DPA and as long as you provide a copy of all the employees records when asked by the employee then there's no problems.

 

[zog]

It was my understanding that keeping them would breach the Data Protection Act.

They should be kept by the HR dept, but I think the Care standards inspectorate like to see the originals at the service. They may have come to a compromise where the CRB no. is kept at the service and referenced against the original CRB held in HR.

Ask your HR dept where they all went, They've currently lost mine and quite a few others from down this way. Good job their's no sensitive information contained in them. don't tell 'em I told you though.

 

[LilMissHissyFit]

And if that makes me a drug-using, rave-attending arsebandit, then so be it...

is that your job description or just whats listed on your CRB?

 

[pembrokestephen]

is that your job description or just whats listed on your CRB?

Both!

I'm in the wrong job, really.

 

[Blagsta]

I don't see how it would. IIRC If you keep any records about employees you need to be registered under the DPA and as long as you provide a copy of all the employees records when asked by the employee then there's no problems.

When I was given training on all this (by New Life, London Action Trust), I was told that HR departments had to destroy them. Once the decision has been made to recruit or not, they should not be held on file as they could be used against employees.

From the CRB site

Storage of Disclosure information is also important. The Code of Practice requires that the information revealed is considered only for the purpose for which it was obtained. It should be destroyed after a suitable period has passed - usually not more than six months.

http://www.crb.gov.uk/Default.aspx?page=311