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urbanspaceman said:
We are targeting dealers and have recently concluded operations in the Stockwell Park Estate, Brixton Market and Coldharbour Lane. A major operation targeting Class A dealers within Brixton area is currently being conducted.
My reading of this is that they have finished an operation in the market to target dealers etc. Am I missing something because things have gone bonkers crazy in the last 2 weeks and they are everywhere!? Things down Electric Alley have gone mental recently and we now seem to have skagheads as well as our lovely little cracky mates!

Hi everyone by the way - memespring pointed me in the direction of this thread :)
 
nipsla said:
urbanspaceman said:
We are targeting dealers and have recently concluded operations in the Stockwell Park Estate, Brixton Market and Coldharbour Lane. A major operation targeting Class A dealers within Brixton area is currently being conducted.
My reading of this is that they have finished an operation in the market to target dealers etc. Am I missing something because things have gone bonkers crazy in the last 2 weeks and they are everywhere!? Things down Electric Alley have gone mental recently and we now seem to have skagheads as well as our lovely little cracky mates!

Hi everyone by the way - memespring pointed me in the direction of this thread :)

Welcome. :)
 
sounds so lovely in brixton , really trendy and dangerous. i can really understand why you would chose to live there. what a lovely place to bring up children, im sure you all sleep soundly at night.
in my opinion anyone who chooses to live in a area known for crackheads and violent street robberies only has themselves to blame when they get beat up/robbed.

oh and for the record i lived in St Pauls/Easton the Bristol equiv of Brixton but moved away after a nasty hammer attack was followed up by being burgled at gun point.

so in short if you dont like the crime dont live move there and dont live there.
 
buffalosid said:
so in short if you dont like the crime dont live move there and dont live there.
It's not as black and white as that. People have ties to where they live and can't just up and leave and why should they anyway?

They have a right to live where they want without being mugged, etc.
 
buffalosid said:
sounds so lovely in brixton , really trendy and dangerous. i can really understand why you would chose to live there. what a lovely place to bring up children, im sure you all sleep soundly at night.
in my opinion anyone who chooses to live in a area known for crackheads and violent street robberies only has themselves to blame when they get beat up/robbed.

oh and for the record i lived in St Pauls/Easton the Bristol equiv of Brixton but moved away after a nasty hammer attack was followed up by being burgled at gun point.

so in short if you dont like the crime dont live move there and dont live there.

What an intelligent and insightful post.

*applause*
 
buffalosid said:
so in short if you dont like the crime dont live move there and dont live there.

I couldent disagree more. If you dont like the crime, you take precautions or try and do something about it.

By your logic, if crime moved into your area, you'd move straight out?

I live in Brixon because the positives far outway the negatives (and no being 'trendy' isnt one of them)
 
And not everyone lives in central Brixton, it'd be right full up if we did

Twelve years on, never been mugged

buffalosid, you've stuck yer oar in when you know nothing

:)
 
buffalosid said:
sounds so lovely in brixton , really trendy and dangerous. i can really understand why you would chose to live there. what a lovely place to bring up children, im sure you all sleep soundly at night.
in my opinion anyone who chooses to live in a area known for crackheads and violent street robberies only has themselves to blame when they get beat up/robbed.

oh and for the record i lived in St Pauls/Easton the Bristol equiv of Brixton but moved away after a nasty hammer attack was followed up by being burgled at gun point.

so in short if you dont like the crime dont live move there and dont live there.

What a cowardly way to approach life. Yes, yes, before you say it, you're allegedly a fire fighter. I've read your other posts and they all seem to bear the same level of malcontent and ignorance as this one.

Now perhaps you'll leave us to discuss our community issues without being forced to wade through your unhelpful drivel.
 
buffalosid said:
sounds so lovely in brixton , really trendy and dangerous. i can really understand why you would chose to live there. what a lovely place to bring up children, im sure you all sleep soundly at night.
in my opinion anyone who chooses to live in a area known for crackheads and violent street robberies only has themselves to blame when they get beat up/robbed.

oh and for the record i lived in St Pauls/Easton the Bristol equiv of Brixton but moved away after a nasty hammer attack was followed up by being burgled at gun point.

so in short if you dont like the crime dont live move there and dont live there.

Do you know what mate - you're absolutely right. Can't believe I didn't think of it before. When I get home tonight I'm going to start packing and move to Hampstead!:rolleyes:

That is the worst sort of unhelpful claptrap I've ever heard in my life. You may not have noticed that this is in the Brixton section. If you've got something helpful or incisive to say - fab! If you haven't, go off to the Bristol section and be a miserable West Country grouch there.

Muppet! :mad:
 
buffalosid said:
sounds so lovely in brixton , really trendy and dangerous. i can really understand why you would chose to live there...
....oh and for the record i lived in St Pauls/Easton the Bristol equiv of Brixton but moved away after a nasty hammer attack was followed up by being burgled at gun point....so in short if you dont like the crime dont live move there and dont live there.


Poor quality wind-up merchant. Must try harder.

FWIW I was born around here and, after over 30 years, have never had a peep of real trouble in Brixton.

Know St Pauls well too. It's a whole lot more fragmented, divided and unloved than Brixton ever will be. Even so, your experiences sound remarkable...
 
memespring said:
A gentle nudge about this too : http://www.pledgebank.com/brixton

Half way there so far. It could prove a useful way of keeping track of the situation.

Almost 2/3 of the way there now. Probably worth doing a separate thread to publicise it - I'm sure there are plenty of Brixtonites who read the forum but haven't waded through this thread.
 
Details of memespring's pledge page have been emailed to a lot of people in our community in Rushcroft rd so hopefully that will up the signatory count.

Buffalosid: note the word 'community'. Look it up in the dictionary if you don't know what it means. I am part of a wonderful one that I would not give up for the world, let alone a few nuisance crackheasds.
 
IntoStella said:
Details of memespring's pledge page have been emailed to a lot of people in our community in Rushcroft rd so hopefully that will up the signatory count.

Thanks. Does anyone know anyone in Electric Mansions who might want to sign up? I met the woman in charge of the tennents association the other week, but havnt seen her since to mention this.
 
I'm going to give the police some praise where it's due!

We called them yesterday when the same load of crackheads broke into the alley first thing - and they turned up mob-handed in about 10 minutes. Unfortunately the horrible little scrotes had gone by then, but it was reassuring after memespring's problems on Thursday.

Then this morning at 7.45 we got a buzz from the gate (although I wasn't very happy to be woken up ;) ). It was the police asking to be let in as the buggers were in there again - and they caught them (*applause*). They'd dumped the drugs by the time the police got down to them, but they chucked them all out, and managed to nick a couple of them for skipping bail.

The best thing is though that they've parked a police car outside the gate! We're going to have a crack-head free Saturday. Bliss :)

Maybe they'll let us keep it permanently....
 
thanks and the next steps....

Many thanks to all who responded to my original message that got this thread going. I was worried that I might be over-reacting to stuff I’ve seen recently on Rushcroft Rd, but clearly I’m not alone! Also very pleased to see messages from other people on Rushcroft - I’ve lived here for 8 years and don't know the neighbours - clearly that needs to change. So what can we do about our problem? Here’s my ideas/suggestions:

time to mobilise - residents on Saltoun have been getting stroppy lately about the drug problem and I reckon those of us in Rushcroft should do the same. Saltoun have been invited to a meeting with police in early October at 'the beat' community police office on CHL. I’m hoping we can have a meeting at the same venue also in October. It’s an opportunity for Rushcroft residents to get together and talk with/lobby the local community police team and consider the practical steps we can take to tackle the crack problem. Let me know if you’re interested in attending. And memespring’s pledgepage is a great idea to create a local ‘community of interest’ around this issue, so I urge everyone to sign-up to it.

The Ritzy alcoves - isn't this the number-one problem on Rushcroft Rd? Those three alcoves are basically functioning as outdoor crack houses! Clearly, the current situation is no good for Rushcroft residents nor is it safe for Ritzy customers. I’m not interested in a blame game against the Ritzy, but some pertinent questions - (1) gates are fitted to each of the three alcoves. Why are these not closed when the Ritzy is closed? (2) I’m aware of fire regulations, but do these really stipulate that the alcoves must be five feet deep (and therefore perfect for crack smoking)? (3) Is the middle alcove even an emergency exit? It appears to be an entrance to office space.

Displacement – a problem? yes. An excuse for giving up? no. As residents and tax payers we have a right to expect that serious criminality and anti-social behaviour will be tackled. The fact that it may move elsewhere simply means that the effort to deal with it has to be mobile and responsive as well. I’m aware that there’s no simple “enforcement” solution to drugs, but wherever did the crackheads get the idea that they’re allowed to smoke crack in broad daylight only a stones throw away from Lambeth Town Hall? Like most people in this thread I’m opposed to aggressive policing, but I’m all in favour of high profile, visible policing. So – bring back regular foot-patrols please!

CCTV – not a panacea for all ills, but, as other posters have noted, the recent appearance of the mobile CCTV van next to Windrush Square did seem to make some difference last week. should we be pressing for more comprehensive, up front CCTV coverage of the area?

dealers v. users – I was interested in Supt Zinzan’s letter to Urbanspaceman that talked about the “increase in dealer activity in Rushcroft Road”. For me, dealers aren’t the problem – they’ve always been here for all the years I’ve been in Brixton and have never given me any hassle (why should they? they’re in the business of trying to sell something). The problem as far as I’m concerned is the appearance out of the woodwork in the last 12 months of very scary crack-using individuals who I don’t previously remember seeing hanging around. These are individuals with a £5-600 a week habit to maintain which, for the majority, means robbing people. I’m concerned that the police are taking a laissez faire approach to crack users (which may explain the poor response rate to 999 calls).

mending the broken windows – Detective-boy was right to mention the ‘broken windows’ hypothesis (that underpins so-called ‘zero-tolerance policing’). It’s about maintaining standards – if you let the small things go (the ‘broken windows’) then it gets harder and harder to hold the line against ever more extreme forms of anti-social behaviour. Before you know it, the whole area’s gone to hell. I reckon crack is a hugely symbolic issue for Brixton – if people are brazenly smoking crack cocaine in the street by day and night, apparently with impunity, then how can we say the area isn’t trapped in a downward spiral? Set against this powerful image, claims about falling crime statistics appear unbelievable.

Well, I’d better end this, very long, post. But thanks once again to those who joined the thread and let’s hope we can act as a community to get the crackheads out of our area!
 
Is there enough space to install halogen floodlights (with armoured glass covers) as downlighters in the ceiling of each alcove?
 
lang rabbie said:
Is there enough space to install halogen floodlights (with armoured glass covers) as downlighters in the ceiling of each alcove?

I had that thought too, but upon checking they're already pretty well lit which doesn't seem to alleviate the problem. Obviously Halogens would be better though.
 
Leighsw2 said:
dealers v. users For me, dealers aren’t the problem – they’ve always been here for all the years I’ve been in Brixton and have never given me any hassle (why should they? they’re in the business of trying to sell something).
Maybe - but a lot of the dealers that seemed to arrive from 1999 onwards are pretty obnoxious, imo, and may be contributing to the drug problems you set out in your (excellent, it must be said) post.

A lot of the dealing nowadays is not of the discreet kind - it consists of blokes lurching out of doorways and hanging around the bus stops going "skunk skunk skunk" in your face as you walk past. This, for me, has become a total and unwelcome pain in the arse when I'm trying to get home from the station. I doubt anyone who's lived in the area for any length of time finds this a pleasant phenomenon (particularly anyone trying to raise a family in the aea).

Personally, I have just about had it with the brazen dealing and using of drugs in the area. I've lived here for years and I've never known it to be as "in-your-face" as it's become in recent years. It's demoralising and grinds you down. It feels like the "power" of local criminals to do what they like is being waved in our faces in a sort of smug "what you going to do about it?" way.

Personally, I think both the dealers and users need to be tackled. It's gone on long enough now.

Rant over.
 
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