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F***ing hell, £186 for a pair of Athena STIs?

Good lord.

Not that I prolly didn't pay that in the cost of the groupset, but still :D
 
right, this is how they work: there's a lever behind the brake lever responsible for pulling cable and the thumb lever on the side releases it. t'were always thus.

also, sti stands for sexually transmitted infection or in certain circles shimano total integration.
 
right, this is how they work: there's a lever behind the brake lever responsible for pulling cable and the thumb lever on the side releases it. t'were always thus.

also, sti stands for sexually transmitted infection or in certain circles shimano total integration.

Yeah, ok. It's just that my 105 levers have this pretty awesome thing, where you push the inside one to go up and the brake lever sideways to go down. (Well, on the RD, that is. Other way round for the FD :))

The side nubbles seem kinda clunky in comparison :)

e2a: also, £130 for a Campag 11-speed chain tool. lulz.
 
quoad, did you just splash out on a groupset without ever having had a shot of a campag-equipped bike? :hmm:
 
I thought so. The shifting will feel... different to Shimano (all you Campag fans I'm not saying inferior before you start) so don't be freaked out the first time you get on it. I can't quite explain what I mean here but I find it very noticeable
 
The shifting is certainly slicker on Shimano...initially. Campag has a rep for being more 'positve' (ie less slick), thing is it never gets worse wheras my expericene of Shimano STI (sora, 105 and Ultegra) is that you never get that initial slickness back, even after a full cable swap. Mind you the new C.Record, Record and Chorus were according to the mags more Shimano like than ever...:confused:
 
I thought so. The shifting will feel... different to Shimano (all you Campag fans I'm not saying inferior before you start) so don't be freaked out the first time you get on it. I can't quite explain what I mean here but I find it very noticeable

couldn't argue with this at all, it will feel different, very different to start with. i give it a week before you're a fully fledged campy fiend :p
 
Yeah, ok. It's just that my 105 levers have this pretty awesome thing, where you push the inside one to go up and the brake lever sideways to go down. (Well, on the RD, that is. Other way round for the FD :))

The side nubbles seem kinda clunky in comparison :)

e2a: also, £130 for a Campag 11-speed chain tool. lulz.

yep, that's shimano sti. they haz the patents so no one else is allowed to do it ;)

hence why sram is shit- they spent a decade trying to hawk fucking gripshit on the world before realising that no one wanted their inferior twaddle so now they're playing catch up making systems that have the seven necessary differences to make it their own product while still being derivative enough that someone might buy it... of course it makes the all american bike a reality so it will sell ;)
 
I thought so. The shifting will feel... different to Shimano (all you Campag fans I'm not saying inferior before you start) so don't be freaked out the first time you get on it. I can't quite explain what I mean here but I find it very noticeable

The shifting is certainly slicker on Shimano...initially. Campag has a rep for being more 'positve' (ie less slick), thing is it never gets worse wheras my expericene of Shimano STI (sora, 105 and Ultegra) is that you never get that initial slickness back, even after a full cable swap. Mind you the new C.Record, Record and Chorus were according to the mags more Shimano like than ever...:confused:

couldn't argue with this at all, it will feel different, very different to start with. i give it a week before you're a fully fledged campy fiend :p
Yeah - I'm aware of this :) I'd spoken to my LBS fairly comprehensively before buying. He described it as *clunk* *krrrr* [+ vigorous attendant hand motions] for gear shifts. And said that Campy lovers wanted to know where they are, because they couldn't handle Shimano's quiet precision :D

Did you buy any tires yet, you need quite fat ones.

I was thinking 35mm nubbled?

OR I've got some GP attack / force that I'm not currently using - I was going to put them on my Cayo, but hadn't gotten round to it... :)
 
The Harry Rowlands have arrived; the bottom bracket is being removed as I type*.

The handlebars and stem have not been posted :mad:

The wheels are sexy :cool: :D

*I detached the FD and RD before taking the frame to the shop, because I felt like enough of a twat bringing it in with the brakes left on :o But, well. They are sexy. And needed attachmenting :o
 
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And in bed, *sigh*

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Handlebars n stem've just been posted :)

48hrs :(

And then I'll need a seatpost shim.

e2a: also, I have ordered ITALIAN bar tape. Cinelli. Zebra pattern. Because I am tasteful :cool:
 
RIGHT.

The bike is built.

But the pissing gears REALLY aren't behaving.

After 2hrs of twiddling, I've finally got the RD so it's giving me 9/11 gears; I gave up on the FD a while back, and'm letting it sit there and fester.

I have a horrible feeling I've knacked the FD gear cable outer :facepalm:

It IS, however... beautifully, beautifully light... :)
 
am I right in thinking you are building a bike from mail order parts?

Why don't you just buy one?
 
Check the cable angle at the tensioning bolt on the rear mech - the most common cause of that shifting issue is the cable not routed / seated properly - the campag instrcutions are very good, go over them again.

But have a cup of tea first.
 
Check the cable angle at the tensioning bolt on the rear mech - the most common cause of that shifting issue is the cable not routed / seated properly - the campag instrcutions are very good, go over them again.

But have a cup of tea first.
*sigh*

TY, Siggy.

I have a feeling that my earlier clumsiness might've got the better of this cable set. Or the outers, potentially, at least. The FD is doing - lilterally - nothing. The cable doesn't seem to be responding any more, and I can't be arsed to take it apart.

I'll have another shot later, though... And may take it into my LBS tomorrow, if all else fails.

am I right in thinking you are building a bike from mail order parts?

Why don't you just buy one?
Because the equivalent frame, new, would've been closer to £2k (and possibly somewhat over)!

And I wanted to build a bike.....
 
sweet :cool: NB tape the cables to the grooves in the bars before you do any more gear fettling. It makes a difference.
 
just a couple of bits of insulating tape round the bar at the bends and on top will do.
 
RIGHT.

The bike is built.

But the pissing gears REALLY aren't behaving.

After 2hrs of twiddling, I've finally got the RD so it's giving me 9/11 gears; I gave up on the FD a while back, and'm letting it sit there and fester.

I have a horrible feeling I've knacked the FD gear cable outer :facepalm:

It IS, however... beautifully, beautifully light... :)

which 9 out of 11? Am happy to advise more in half an hour or so once my kids are in bed.
 
which 9 out of 11? Am happy to advise more in half an hour or so once my kids are in bed.

The tough 9/11!

Can only get the lowest FOUR working if I start at that end!

Am off out.

Have realised I've got two spare cable caps. Suspect they belong in the hoods...
 
Have realised I've got two spare cable caps. Suspect they belong in the hoods...

The only thing in the ergos should be the cabe inner and a nice flat cable outer end going into the hole. Have you got a file? While you're at this point file the ends of all your cable outers and get em smooth, makes a massive difference - particularly to brakes.

looking cool though:cool:
 
Also - with the rear mech attached - you lined up the jockey wheels on the smallest sprocket, yes?

and... secondhand frame sent from Ebay, right? Is the gear hanger straight? When you look from behind the rear wheel does the rear mech hang perfectly in line with the cogs of the cassette? If it's angled even slightly then you could faff with the cables all night and the gears would still never be right. If it's bent take it to your LBS who will either be able to straighten it with something like this for a few quid

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or if it's totally borked sell you a new hanger for ooooh twenty quid or so.
 
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