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*cough* :o New project. *cough*

A saddle, seat post, tyres, possibly cables (may/should come with groupset components if you're buying new) + cable caps

TY, Cybertect! :)

Oh, and mrs quoad, that is a gorgeous looking frame. Any chance you can do the same thing as you did with your hybrid: kit it all up, decide you don't really want it, then flog it (this time to me, at a huge discount...there's a good chap!)

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http://www.apollocyclesport.co.uk/index.aspx?s=Product&p=81

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mrs q, i seem to remember sigmund fraud posting about an ambrosio hubset that are rip offs of record hubs at a fraction of the price, could be an excellent start to some handbuilt wheels that would help keep the price down and performance up. :)

add a centaur groupset with carbon cranks and you could finish the beast off for a little under a grand.
 
mrs q, i seem to remember sigmund fraud posting about an ambrosio hubset that are rip offs of record hubs at a fraction of the price, could be an excellent start to some handbuilt wheels that would help keep the price down and performance up. :)

add a centaur groupset with carbon cranks and you could finish the beast off for a little under a grand.

Ooo.

Ooo?

p.s. Centaur? Athena, no? ;)
 
mrs q, i seem to remember sigmund fraud posting about an ambrosio hubset that are rip offs of record hubs at a fraction of the price, could be an excellent start to some handbuilt wheels that would help keep the price down and performance up. :)

add a centaur groupset with carbon cranks and you could finish the beast off for a little under a grand.

Yep - Ambrosio Zenith hubs:-

http://www.ambrosio.co.uk/ambrosio_zenith_hubs.htm

Add some Ambrosio Excellight rims (lightest tubed 700c rim you can buy) and Sapim lazer spokes and get them built by this fella:-

Harry Rowland

You can easily swap out the cassette body for Shimano should you decide to go the wrong way later. I reckon he could build you the whole kit above for about £250 - I have two sets of these and they're bomb proof, light and repairable. The zenith hubs are amazing.

ps budget for a cassette lockring - bit of a PITA the hubs don't come with one but there you go - £12 extra.
 
Yes, on bad conditions on a trail I would like the one with better modulation and overall stopping power. I'm glad to have cleared that up for you.

Well to be fair you didn't - you just told me why *you* bought the bike you did. If you were paying attention I was never questioning that.
 
I really am bored of hijacking mrs q's thread any further. Suffice to say that you feel modern high spec mtb's are overly complex devices which people like me buy because we're stupid, while I think you're talking out of your hole. Seem fair? If you want a long running thread on why full suss is better than hardtail, or disks better than rim, or hydraulic better than mechanical, why not start a thread for that? I will happily argue the toss till the rest of the board has us both barred for being dull bastards, but I'm not going to do it in a thread celebrating someone else's new project.
 
Yep - Ambrosio Zenith hubs:-

http://www.ambrosio.co.uk/ambrosio_zenith_hubs.htm

Add some Ambrosio Excellight rims (lightest tubed 700c rim you can buy) and Sapim lazer spokes and get them built by this fella:-

Harry Rowland

You can easily swap out the cassette body for Shimano should you decide to go the wrong way later. I reckon he could build you the whole kit above for about £250 - I have two sets of these and they're bomb proof, light and repairable. The zenith hubs are amazing.

ps budget for a cassette lockring - bit of a PITA the hubs don't come with one but there you go - £12 extra.

whatever they call it these days :D

those wheels look the nuts, if you want to go the extra mile check out sapim cxray spokes :cool:
TY, both!

How many h do I want? NB: I'm not small. So I reckon 'quite a lot'? :hmm:

I really am bored of hijacking mrs q's thread any further. Suffice to say that you feel modern high spec mtb's are overly complex devices which people like me buy because we're stupid, while I think you're talking out of your hole. Seem fair? If you want a long running thread on why full suss is better than hardtail, or disks better than rim, or hydraulic better than mechanical, why not start a thread for that? I will happily argue the toss till the rest of the board has us both barred for being dull bastards, but I'm not going to do it in a thread celebrating someone else's new project.
:D at the lot of youse :D
 
Campy question:

i) Colnago = Italian threaded?
ii) Erm. What brakes? Or what does this mean? Is it good? :facepalm:
2009 Chorus D-Skeleton brake calipers (2006-2008 model also available. The 2007-2008 model has hidden pivot bolts and ball bearing actuation like Record and Super Record)
iii) I understand brazing + carbon fibre doesn't really work. How would one identify if one needed a 32mm or 35mm clamp? Or would that become obvious, like?
iv) I have big legs. So 175mm cranks?
v) would getting an 11-25 (as opposed to 11-23) cassette add much, given there's likely to be a daft-big gap (14t or summat) between the outer and inner ring? Wouldn't that give all the useful gears, like?

TY :)

TY :)
 
Yep - Ambrosio Zenith hubs:-

http://www.ambrosio.co.uk/ambrosio_zenith_hubs.htm

Add some Ambrosio Excellight rims (lightest tubed 700c rim you can buy) and Sapim lazer spokes and get them built by this fella:-

Harry Rowland

You can easily swap out the cassette body for Shimano should you decide to go the wrong way later. I reckon he could build you the whole kit above for about £250 - I have two sets of these and they're bomb proof, light and repairable. The zenith hubs are amazing.

ps budget for a cassette lockring - bit of a PITA the hubs don't come with one but there you go - £12 extra.
£250 on the button, fwiw :)

+£15 P&P :)
 
Campy question:

i) Colnago = Italian threaded?
ii) Erm. What brakes? Or what does this mean? Is it good? :facepalm:
iii) I understand brazing + carbon fibre doesn't really work. How would one identify if one needed a 32mm or 35mm clamp? Or would that become obvious, like?
iv) I have big legs. So 175mm cranks?
v) would getting an 11-25 (as opposed to 11-23) cassette add much, given there's likely to be a daft-big gap (14t or summat) between the outer and inner ring? Wouldn't that give all the useful gears, like?

TY :)

TY :)

i) not sure - nominally yes - Boycey? Phone a 'Nago dealer?
ii)yes - All campag brakes from Veloce up are great stoppers, Chorus are even better.
iii)do you mean braze on front clamp? They'll be a slot on the seattube. If not you gotta use band on - not sure of diameter (measure it?:D)
iv)not about big legs, its about how tall you are and therefore how much leverage you can muster and how much advantage longer cranks will give you. I'm 6'2" and use 175mm.
v)depends - you have no hills and seem like a speed merchant, why not go for a straight through 11-21? If you're worried buy a cheaper cassette (eg Veloce, Ambrosio and BBB also do pattern cassettes). Do you need a 25 sprocket in Cambs?
 
TY!

fine choice
TY! :)

i) not sure - nominally yes - Boycey? Phone a 'Nago dealer?
ii)yes - All campag brakes from Veloce up are great stoppers, Chorus are even better.
iii)do you mean braze on front clamp? They'll be a slot on the seattube. If not you gotta use band on - not sure of diameter (measure it?)
iv)not about big legs, its about how tall you are and therefore how much leverage you can muster and how much advantage longer cranks will give you. I'm 6'2" and use 175mm.
v)depends - you have no hills and seem like a speed merchant, why not go for a straight through 11-21? If you're worried buy a cheaper cassette (eg Veloce, Ambrosio and BBB also do pattern cassettes). Do you need a 25 sprocket in Cambs?

Ah.

Ordered this yesterday :D I'm hoping it's arrived today. I should've said :o

tbh, that's kinda what prompted me to order the wheels. Because, like. I've got the frameset. And the group set should be here soon. And, well. The saddle post. And top cap. And headset spacers (no saddle / stem / handlebars, mind!). So, like. Wheels. Couldn't just have a complete-bike-bar-wheels sitting around, now. Could I? I've decided to work on the principle of 'if I bankrupt myself completely, I'll still probably find a way to survive'.

Boycey clarified - yes, Italian BB. Brakes - well, that would've been Chorus. After some research (in which everyone across a range of sites said 'don't bother, I can't even tell the difference between Centaur and Record') I went for Athena. Which I'm hoping has arrived this morning. AND the front clamp - sorted :) I hope. WITH 175mm cranks, and 11-23 (IIRC) cassette. 21 wasn't offered :hmm:

TY, though!
 
:mad:

Just picked up a voicemail from yesterday; my group set won't be here until Monday :mad:

(Though I won't have wheels til Tuesday, so that prolly isn't the end of the world :o :D)
 
Parcelforce said:
The status of the parcel you've enquired about is displayed below.
Parcel number:
Service: Express 24
Status: In progress
Last tracked at: Deeside Depot
Expected delivery date: 02-11-2009

:cool:

*rubs thighs enthusiastically*
 
Fucking hell!

Date Time Location Tracking Event
31-10-2009 06:03 Cambridge Depot Out for delivery
31-10-2009 00:50 National Hub Sorted in hub
30-10-2009 17:31 Deeside Depot On route to hub
30-10-2009 16:12 Deeside Depot Collected from customer

I nearly came!
 
*yaaaaaaaaaaaawn*

Gotta groupset :)

Wheels hopefully tomoz.

Hopefully handlebars Weds.

:)

p.s. I don't like these STI bushings :hmm: Otherwise it's pretty awesome :)
 
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