Cornwall's economy

[madzone]

You haven't talked about the medical school and the possibilities for marine technologies. The road issue is being addressed as we speak but we definitely need investments in the railway. And I have to say that there are business experts who think you're wrong about Cornwall being unable to compete globally (eventually and with the right investment)

It would be churlish to suggest a complete end to tourism but at the monet there is a deep sense of unbalance - especially this far west. St Ives doesn't look like St Ives any more. The face of it has changed rapidly and the people who rely on tourism need to realise that by overdeveloping the area they are risking losing the very aspects of cornwall that people come to experience.

And if we manage to persuade people to invest in Cornwall we may even see a rise in wages enabling Cornish people to enjoy the same quality of life as people who can afford to holiday here. Tourism is all well and good but it serves to keep the locals in low paid, part time, temporary jobs. Not very sustainable.

There has a been a fall in unemloyment but not, it appears, due to tourism :

Cornwall has, in the past, had some of the highest rates of unemployment in the South West. However now, in January 2003, unemployment was 3.1% in Cornwall compared to 2.6% in the South West and 3.1% nationally. Employment growth has taken place in manufacturing, wholesale/retail, health and care related industries with many jobs being full time, in contrast to the national trend. However, economic activity rates are less than the national average and the proportion of part-time jobs is higher than the national average.

http://www.cornwallenterprise.co.uk/info/cornwall.aspx

 

[djbombscare]

Yeah there will always be business experts who reckon this and reckon that. For everyone that gets wheeled out saying one thing there'll be one that says something else its all down to interpretation of figures.

But there's a lot of sorting that needs to be done before it can achieve that and like you said at the moment it has to be very careful as to how its does it, so as to not jepoardise its current main source of income. It would seem pointless to try and compete on a global scale and fail when you have a treid and tested industry that is steeped in history has unique qulaities that add to its charms and is known to work.

Road links wise I know a lot of the work that had been carried out. I spent some time working for me old man on the indian queens bypass bit, as well as everywhere else in the Southwest. TBH The roadworks down there were not just Cornwall biased but part of much grander schemes for road links from London. The Indian Queens one I think was part of a London to Honiton To Lands End schemes. All they really did once one stretch was completed was move the bottlenecks onto thye next bit. And then in the final stretches the jobs were put on indefinite hold due to campaigning and opposition to the roads.

I just cant see the road links will be acceptable for production and distribution commerce needs in Cornwall. Not for a longtime anyway. And if they do try it will more than likely meet so much opposition that they'll just say Fuck it bollox to ya. Fuel as well is a contributing factor the extra mileage will price anyone out of the competition.



However where I do think that Cornwall has a bit of a trump card and very good future is renewable power production.

Its Ideal and its linked into the National grid unlike places in the Shetlands etc which seem to be the only other places I've heard mentioned where wind farming and tidal power schemes are viable.

Marine Biology I know fuck all about so I aint going there. But again is that not something that could be linked to tourism ?

With regards to the employment figures it would be good to see what the population size has done over that time?

And from the percentages you've quoted I do hate percetages they're bollox, they mean absoluetly nothing if you dont have the hard figures behind it. Its politcal bollox to take your mind off the true figure behind them that figure is 3.1 over the 2.6 in the rest of the Southwest so its still not up there yet. ( I have to admit that I think Devon is lucky probably down to the M5 terminating at Exeter ) It also says that the proportion of part time jobs is higher than the national average. Is that not down to tourism factor ?

 

[CNT36]

I take it your not looking for anything in IT. For all the training possibilities that are coming available you still have to leave the county to actually make any use of them. Truro job centre seems to have the same outlook, having had four different people now ask if Id leave the county to be able to find something.

If someone called Darren says that to you feel free to kick the living shit out of him. I would myself but I'd lose my job. They can stop your benefit now if your not willing to work anywhere within 45 minutes of where you live. If you rely on public transport your sorted! The whole jobcentreplus in cornwall is fucked. People being moved around and the customers not told, given phone numbers that never answer and people spend hours being passed from phone to phone for before realising theyve talked to the same person three or four times and no one has a clue what to do.

 

[Team Kernow]

Cornwall is NEXT to England, just like Wales...

This is quite possibly, unfortunately, the primary entity that has most stimulated, both directly and indirectly, the current and extreme levels of concrete and tarmac spreading, environmental and infrastructure overload and community disruption and fragmentation upon Kernow / Cornwall :

http://www.eden-project-insight.tk

The ' sustainable ' thresholds for population, urbanisation, medical and water provision in most conditions in these climatically unpredictable times along with viable waste management married with proper environmental stewardship, need to be urgently quantified and defined for Cornwall and resources targeted at serving the year round needs of the FULL TIME RESIDENTIAL population.

FINITE SPACE = FINITE CAPACITY = FINITE POPULATION THRESHOLD = FINITE INFRASTRUCTURE LIMITS.

The relevance of unquantifiable, unpredictable and fickle tourism has been blown out of all proportion by external hypermarketeers like Malcolm Bell of ‘ Southwest ’ Tourism from his Exeter office. It needs to be put back in its box as a less damaging, transient but, nevertheless, welcome SUPPLEMENT to a REAL and productive economic base. Many places in the world concentrate on building REAL broad based economic structures with a balanced 12 month quantifiable production and employment profile. That is more likely to lead to 'sustainability', constancy and demographically balanced, stable and vibrant communities. Kernow can do this too!

Much better to focus on that than a schizophrenic seasonal dependency, with frantically over-crowded summers and socially depleted winters, however much narrow tourism interests try to spin and force the 'shoulder' months against the wild and woolly facts of winter weather in Cornwall, that provides work at £5/6 an hour for our young people for 3 months and then...?

The U.H.U. is the most damaging consequence of unfettered pandering to short termist and narrow interest tourism biased opportunism:

‘uhu - n (acronym) U.H.U. - 'Underutilised Housing Unit' - a term used to more accurately describe the misappropriation and misuse of primary residential housing for occasional holidays by affluent non-residents whilst rendering the indigenous residential population marginalised or homeless and also as an excuse by over-developers for overloading Kernow with unnecessary 'affordable housing' scam ghettos, concrete and tarmac. More commonly described by the London based pro-overdevelopment BBC and Western Morning News using the inaccurate and semantically contradictory and illogical spin term 'second home' ('home' - where one lives; 'second home' - where one's doppelganger lives?)

The catastrophic social impact of the 'U.H.U.' is most vividly brought home when a loud high pitched usually English voice, sans unnecessary megaphone, is heard over the hedge calling 'Uhu! Just popped down for the weekend (...Roger, golf, St Enedoc, Tate St Ives, Steins, Kazbah etc., etc., etc...). By the way, where is everybody?’

It is simply astonishing and appalling that planners have not comprehensively insisted on this general,fundamental, necessary, and socially responsible principle:

RESIDENTIAL HOUSING IS FOR LIVING IN ; HOLIDAY ACCOMMODATION IS FOR TAKING HOLIDAYS.

Reversing the U.H.U. tendency and then devising firm and determined strategies for recovering these mis-used residential homes for proper and full time occupation should be the first priority of Cornwall and District Council Planners whose first duty is, after all, to look after the best interests of the full time residents of Kernow / Cornwall. This is more likely to be in Kernow / Cornwall’s best interests than overloading everywhere with the consequences of transparently detrimental, damaging and dubious ‘affordable housing’ ‘schemes’.

When this is done and the over-development turmoil and chaos of recent years arrested, a REAL year round economy, including manageable levels of tourism, can be built for a ‘sustainable’, demographically balanced and restored year-round, dynamic, more stable, more integrated and fully enfranchised Kernow.

Here are distinct, developed, substantial and important perspectives of others on these and related issues :

http://www.cornish-stannary-parliament.abelgratis.com
http://www.gorsethkernow.org.uk
http://www.mebyonkernow.org
http://www.senedhkernow.com
http://www.andrewgeorge.org.uk/press/141.htm
http://www.kernowtgg.co.uk
http://www.thisisnotcornwall.co.uk/

Cornwall is NEXT to England, just like Wales, Ireland,Scotland and the Isle of Man.

 

[madzone]

Hello Team Kernow - what brings you to the boards?

 

[boskysquelch]

Hello Team Kernow - what brings you to the boards?

Google probably!

referral Logs?

 

[rowan]

http://www.eden-project-insight.tk
http://www.cornish-stannary-parliament.abelgratis.com
http://www.gorsethkernow.org.uk
http://www.mebyonkernow.org
http://www.senedhkernow.com
http://www.andrewgeorge.org.uk/press/141.htm
http://www.kernowtgg.co.uk
http://www.thisisnotcornwall.co.uk/[/COLOR]

Cornwall is NEXT to England, just like Wales, Ireland,Scotland and the Isle of Man.

Thanks for the links

 

[madzone]

Thanks for the links

Watch out for the one at the bottom.

 

[boskysquelch]

 

[Ground Elder]

Watch out for the one at the bottom.

Thought you might say that.

 

[madzone]

Thought you might say that.

I could say a whole lot more and be wholly justified

Still, as long as it didn't happen to you eh?

 

[boskysquelch]

I could say a whole lot more and be wholly justified

Still, as long as it didn't happen to you eh?

 

[rowan]

Watch out for the one at the bottom.

The 'This is not Cornwall' one?

 

[boskysquelch]

The 'This is not Cornwall' one?

Don't go to it because if you do the people who run it will know where you live and they'll come and photgraph you and everything.

 

[rowan]

If people I don't know went to the trouble of finding where I live and came round to photograph my home I'd be seriously worried about what else they could do.
My dogs would stop anyone actually getting in and I feel safer with them around, but it'd still be very creepy thinking that someone is watching.

 

[boskysquelch]

If you go on the Net and interact with others, they and others are able to seek you out and find your location. If you make some effort to not allow this to happen then they can't. A child with minimal instruction could do it in half a dozen clicks of their mouse if they wished.

The simplest way to protect identity from this happening would be to use an Anonymizer together with a Modem Router with security/firewall enabled..as opposed to a straght ISP provided modem only connection.



I was once recently further accused by someone on this Board and Thread for trying to find Their Blog. When I asked how they knew that I had been looking for it Their answer was "Because someone had been looking for it on Google."



FOR FUCKS SAKE!

 

[rowan]

If you go on the Net and interact with others, they and others are able to seek you out and find your location.

That's my point though. If someone is weird enough to seek you out like that it reeks of them being a stalker don't you think?
And it is very worrying having a stalker, as I know from personal experience (it wasn't on the internet though)

 

[boskysquelch]

That's my point though.

So if someone looks up something on the net they are a stalker?..oh I see(sic n sarky..but light heartedly)

I'm empathetic rowan ...just a dismissed pathetic....or maybe a deluded paranoic?

heyhum...gotta catch a train to return to The Island..no doubt it'll be the same there tomorrow and the day after.

 

[Team Kernow]

Admin editorial request

Please feel free to remove the bottom link on our posting if it is likely to lead to any discomfort or concern to anyone.

Our apologies for the tangential distraction initiated by it.

 

[madzone]

You could always just edit your post if you're bothered

I'm happy enough for people to post links to that site but will almost certainly comment on it

 

[Team Kernow]

Fine.We'll leave it as posted then.

 

[madzone]

Any reason why you're shouting?

 

[munkeeunit]

Any reason why you're shouting?

Maybe *real* cornish people shout as normal conversation.

(I'm a *real* Bristolian, bleeding English Bristolians make me sick )

 

[madzone]

Maybe *real* cornish people shout as normal conversation.

(I'm a *real* Bristolian, bleeding English Bristolians make me sick )

Real cornishmen do it drekkly or some such inane stereotypical guff

 

[Iam]

inane stereotypical guff

In the SW forum?

Get away!