Controlled parking

[ajdown]

They might have the right, but they certainly don't have the reason to.

It's most likely a result of the congestion charge. Something else that Ken screwed up for the rest of us.

 

[Winot]

The thing that's really going to annoy you is that even a CPZ parking permit isn't going to give you the *right* to park outside your house.

 

[ajdown]

I don't expect to park "outside", just somewhere in my half of the street. That's all. Without commuters in the way, that shouldn't be too hard to achieve.

 

[Winot]

Unless - ooh I don't know - the council gives away free parking permits that aren't tied to a particular car and so could be sold at a profit to a commuter.

 

[ajdown]

That of course becomes difficult for me because it might be one of any three cars that I have access to. Or possibly a hired van if I am needing one. That's why it needs to be address based - and it wouldn't take too much observation to note which cars are being parked all day every day by people who leave their cars and walk to the bus stop, constantly using day permits.

 

[Winot]

No further questions, M'Lud.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

That of course becomes difficult for me because it might be one of any three cars that I have access to. Or possibly a hired van if I am needing one. That's why it needs to be address based - and it wouldn't take too much observation to note which cars are being parked all day every day by people who leave their cars and walk to the bus stop, constantly using day permits.

Basically you want it all your way?

There's never a one size fits all solution to parking problems, especailly when the source of the problem is non-local drivers descending on to your street to park - they have no investment in assisting a solution, so often the only way for councils to deal with the issue and make it as fair as possible is through a solution that will not suit everyone it is trying to assist, but will target those causing the problem.

You've admitted that you're a casual car user, yet your asking to be treated as someone with the right to a space every day, when really those without cars and those only 'needing' to use a car now and again will be somewhere down the list of considered parties, after everyday car users.

In short - no car = no parking problem

 

[ajdown]

I'm only a casual car user because of all the fucking commuters parking there. Do you really think that I would choose to end up being crammed in an overcrowded, inadequate bus service for an hour at each end of my working day, when I could be home in half the time in a car when it was available much more regularly than I get to use it - because the hassle of trying to park thanks to the commuters makes it less than worthwhile if I'm not going shopping or anything else heavy.

Any paid solution targets the victims, not the criminals.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

I'm only a casual car user because of all the fucking commuters parking there. Do you really think that I would choose to end up being crammed in an overcrowded, inadequate bus service for an hour at each end of my working day, when I could be home in half the time in a car when it was available much more regularly than I get to use it - because the hassle of trying to park thanks to the commuters makes it less than worthwhile if I'm not going shopping or anything else heavy.

Any paid solution targets the victims, not the criminals.

I thought you were looking to leave evil Brixton anyway?

 

[ajdown]

When I can find a job outside of London, I will. Even Brixton seems strangely pleasant compared to this shitty job I'm stuck in at present, which gets worse each week.

Unfortunately my target area seems to have lots of redundancies at present, and pretty much all there is available is either senior level management, specialist trades, or vegetable picking - none of which are suitable.

 

[softybabe]

totally agree with ya...same thing was suggested for my Rd, we were asked to feedback and my response was 'fuck off' it must have been the overwhelming response cos they scrapped the idea.

 

[kyser_soze]

Any paid solution targets the victims, not the criminals.

ajdown - oppressed victim of immigrant parking

 

[Nanker Phelge]

AJ's street - 07.30

 

[ajdown]

Whilst it is not quite that bad, I could easily show photos of my street but I do not wish to give my detailed location away, for obvious reasons.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

Whilst it is not quite that bad, I could easily show photos of my street but I do not wish to give my detailed location away, for obvious reasons.

You crack me up - I think you're a comic creation, not a real person at all

 

[ajdown]

What's funny about not wanting to share your home address or street of residence for any nutter to read on an open forum?

 

[Crispy]

What's funny about not wanting to share your home address or street of residence for any nutter to read on an open forum?

Nothing funny at all, tbh.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

What's funny about not wanting to share your home address or street of residence for any nutter to read on an open forum?

Nothing!

 

[se5]

I dont think giving away the name of your street would stop anyone tracking you down if they really wanted to

We already know that you live on a street off Brixton Hill and in Brixton Hill ward and it would seem logical that your username is similar to or indeed the same as your actual name: therefore I could go into Brixton library and look you up on the electoral roll if I felt so inclined. And if I had a subscription to a service like 192.com I could look you up online without moving from my desk.

(Not that I will do this of course. I have no interest is finding out where you live or tracking you down: you are far better as a concept)

 

[Ms T]

Whilst CPZs are obviously needed in areas close to the tube (my street was regularly used by commuters until the CPZ was introduced five years ago), it does irk me that Lambeth has trebled the price without any consultation. It used to be around £60 a year, which I thought reasonable, but now it's a hefty £160. Plus you have to queue in Olive Morris House for an hour for the privilege of handing over your cash.

(Can you tell that we renewed our permit today?)

 

[ajdown]

That's another issue altogether; queuing up for an hour to pay the parking tax just isn't convient or possible for many people.

 

[Dan U]

I'm only a casual car user because of all the fucking commuters parking there. Do you really think that I would choose to end up being crammed in an overcrowded, inadequate bus service for an hour at each end of my working day, when I could be home in half the time in a car when it was available much more regularly than I get to use it - because the hassle of trying to park thanks to the commuters makes it less than worthwhile if I'm not going shopping or anything else heavy.

Any paid solution targets the victims, not the criminals.

is free or cheap parking available near your work?

 

[ajdown]

Work has its own private, and free, car park.

As I said, normally when not in use the car lives there - but sometimes I do have a need to take one home, such as if I've been out all day and am going home after hours instead of back to work to then spend an hour getting home when I can just as easily go in the next morning.

 

[Ol Nick]

Lambeth Council have just spent two years keeping the Town Hall warm by burning piles of cash and have now run out. In order to get some more cash they prefer to tax car users rather than cut services or raise other charges as much. It's just politics and if you raise enough of a fuss you may get them to cut funding for housing, raise rents or reduce spending on parks. Or even stop burning the piles of cash. (Of course Lambeth Labour have had "burning piles of cash" in their manifesto since the 70s so they probably can't stop that.)

 

[pooka]

Whilst CPZs are obviously needed in areas close to the tube (my street was regularly used by commuters until the CPZ was introduced five years ago), it does irk me that Lambeth has trebled the price without any consultation. It used to be around £60 a year, which I thought reasonable, but now it's a hefty £160. Plus you have to queue in Olive Morris House for an hour for the privilege of handing over your cash.

(Can you tell that we renewed our permit today?)

Ms T. I faced a 45 min wait at Olive Morris House recently to renew a permit and cycled up to Gracefield Gardens in Streatham instead. In and out in ten minutes. More remarkably, I recently went to the Kennington Parking Shop to get some visitor permits and walked in and straight to the counter. I think Olive Morris might be a place to avoid.

 

[Ms T]

Ms T. I faced a 45 min wait at Olive Morris House recently to renew a permit and cycled up to Gracefield Gardens in Streatham instead. In and out in ten minutes. More remarkably, I recently went to the Kennington Parking Shop to get some visitor permits and walked in and straight to the counter. I think Olive Morris might be a place to avoid.

Thanks for the tip. Must remember that for next year!

 

[ChrisSouth]

Not one person here has yet managed to offer a good reason why you shouldn't be able to park your car in your street outside your house, if you want to.

If you live on a red route, that's a reason not to be able to park your car in the street outside your house.

 

[Crispy]

if the length of road divided by number of houses/flats is less than the length of a parking space, then a 'right to park' is impossible and some sort of rationing scheme must happen

 

[happyshopper]

I too would like to park my car near to where I live. Without a CPZ that would be impossible, because of commuters and shoppers. So I am strongly in favour of having a CPZ. So I'm prepared to pay an annual fee to cover the cost of administering and, just as important, enforcing the restrictions- there's no reason why those people who don't have a car should have to share the cost. And it also seems reasonable for the fee to reflect the level of carbon emissions from the car.

So the real point of discussion is whether the fee is reasonable. Does anyone have the actual figures for what Lambeth collects in parking fees and what it costs to run the system?

 

[Bob]

if the length of road divided by number of houses/flats is less than the length of a parking space, then a 'right to park' is impossible and some sort of rationing scheme must happen

Only if there is one car per household. I'd guess that in a lot of Lambeth it's lower than that.

Where I live I reckon it's more like one for every two households - though my street is about 2/3 council- so that probably has an impact.