Crispy
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Sounds like a good compromise to me. On the occasions when I do use a car, I'd like to be able to park it too.
PS: I could afford a car but choose not to.
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Sounds like a good compromise to me. On the occasions when I do use a car, I'd like to be able to park it too.
PS: I could afford a car but choose not to.
ajdown
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If you want to talk about 'differentiated rights', why is it fair for those to own a car having to pay £115 a year for the privilege when those without a car aren't paying?
You can cut out all that socialist bollocks in my thread, thanks very much. This is England, not Russia.
You can cut out all that socialist bollocks in my thread, thanks very much. This is England, not Russia.
So you don't think offering a 'free' car parking space to every household would send out a counterproductive and unsustainable message in a high congestion area with many multi-occupancy properties? Let alone a terrible precedent.
As for fairness, there's no differentiation in charging every resident the same for a service - they can choose to opt in or not.
I'm quite aware of where I live thank you, although you seem to have some strange misconception of urban life and entitlement.
As for fairness, there's no differentiation in charging every resident the same for a service - they can choose to opt in or not.
I'm quite aware of where I live thank you, although you seem to have some strange misconception of urban life and entitlement.
Crispy
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When demand for a resource exceeds supply, the price has to increase. What would be unfair would be both car-owners and non-car-owners paying for the parking space.
As a thought experiment, I wonder how much a parking permit on a Brixton street would cost if it was traded on the open market?
ajdown
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It is not my fault that urban planners over the last 30 years have crammed in as many houses as they can wherever they can, without thinking of the need of residents to park their vehicles nearby.
Do you really think that every person who does not own a car, upon being given a free permit, would think that they must go out and buy a car just to get the use out of a permit? I don't. I don't think it would increase car ownership one bit.
Joker. Yes, obviously those old Victorian housebuilders weren't being forward thinking enough when they built houses with more than one storey. And how dare people choose to split their properties into flats to facilitate more affordable living.
You know what value I place on your 'thinking' AJ? People pay royally for provision of parking spaces across London - it's a ridiculous bonus to houseowners to start 'rewarding' potential drivers, handing over chunks of public space.
Interestingly websites like http://www.yourparkingspace.co.uk/ and http://www.gumtree.com/london/2512_1.html attempt to offer such an open market in car parking spaces - the price for a parking space in the SW2 area would seem to be around £60 per month - more than 6 times the likely cost of a permit
Ah, normal people like you. Who apparently only ever gets on buses without a single white person speaking English on there, who refuses to eat Halal music for unspecified reasons, who believes that cyclists weaving cause the majority of road accidents and congestion.
Normal my arse.
ajdown
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I've never seen your arse and frankly have no desire to.
Crispy
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Tough
The point remains that you'd barely be considered 'normal' in Royston Vasey, let alone such a mixed, multicultural area like Brixton.
gaijingirl
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*swoons at Tarannau's arse*
*parks bike between his cheeks*
*parks bike between his cheeks*
The consultation will be a sham.
People in our road voted fo short period of control' which would prevent commuters who park all day - often arriving from all over Surrey to park in brixton and hop on the tube.
Some voted for a short control period in the morning, some in the afternoon. They interpreted this t mean 'people voted for controls between 8.30 am and 6.30pm' and implemented accordingly - a right pain for residents who have workmen, visitors etc during the day. And it is DISASTROUS for businesses and shops who need eople to be able to pop in.
Compare with Southwark CPZ at Herne Hill: a short middle of the day period of control to prevent all day commuters from the SE parking for the train, whilst the shops on Half Moon Rd flourish . Round the corner, parking for the vets or the picture framing place - with all-day control is terrible, and some of thos shops are failing, empty, or struggling.
People in our road voted fo short period of control' which would prevent commuters who park all day - often arriving from all over Surrey to park in brixton and hop on the tube.
Some voted for a short control period in the morning, some in the afternoon. They interpreted this t mean 'people voted for controls between 8.30 am and 6.30pm' and implemented accordingly - a right pain for residents who have workmen, visitors etc during the day. And it is DISASTROUS for businesses and shops who need eople to be able to pop in.
Compare with Southwark CPZ at Herne Hill: a short middle of the day period of control to prevent all day commuters from the SE parking for the train, whilst the shops on Half Moon Rd flourish . Round the corner, parking for the vets or the picture framing place - with all-day control is terrible, and some of thos shops are failing, empty, or struggling.
ajdown
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That would suit most people here too I expect, and I'd be happy with it as a solution, but you're right that most likely they'll go for the all day for maximum revenue rather than what the residents want.
I dropped a long email to Councilor Reed, and one of his lackeys has emailed me back to acknowledge receipt and a fuller reply in due course when he hears back from someone or something about some points I raised.
ChrisSouth
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"You clearly don't understand the concept of 'accepted normality', that you have a fundamental basic right to park a vehicle in the street that you live in, which has been part of British society ever since the car was invented."
Is this a legal concept? I must have missed that.
Is this a legal concept? I must have missed that.
ChrisSouth
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The people in my road voted for short period of control, and we've got it. Just becuase you didn't get your way (and how many people in your road voted for it?), doesn't mean that a consultation is a sham.....
I can't believe the leader of Lambeth Council didn't personally answer your call when you rang him - how rude!
Anyway, when you get a reply to your email, do share what the local authority's response is to your "ancient British normality right" to park a car on the road where your abode is situated.
Did you remember to write the email in green ink, btw?
ajdown
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There are many different things that are 'accepted as normal' in modern British society that don't have a legal concept behind them, just because they have been established over the years.
Not one person here has yet managed to offer a good reason why you shouldn't be able to park your car in your street outside your house, if you want to.
Not one person here has yet managed to offer a good reason why you shouldn't be able to park your car in your street outside your house, if you want to.
Hang on....I'm sure there's something about parking outside your front door in the Magna Carta
kyser_soze
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Ah, you're a one for the lulz aren't you? A 'fundamental basic right to park...in the street that you live in'...you really haven't quite understood the difference between convention or what worked at the time and actual, legal rights do you? Parking on your own street if it's not in a CPZ of some sort is entirely down to how much space is available, and because there are now loads more cars, and more people parking their cars as commuters, this space is no longer available for you and your 'right'. There's your reason why you can't park in your street outside your house - there isn't necessarily the space.
Which is what the scheme is going to do, you muppet. Ban commuters from parking on "your" street. At the price of £2/week.
I hate to break it to you, but until you get a CPZ, the commuters have every much "right" to park there - one of your "ancient British normality rights", perhaps - as you do.
