Poi E said:where pakeha are in the minority
nick1181 said:Yawn. I've put you on ignore by the way.
Poi E said:[Sample life in NZ without leaving London ?Just follow these simple steps for a perfect taster:
1) reduce your salary by 50%. Yup.
2)Imagine that everyone around you averages about 5ft 2 inches in height. Kiwis tend to be a bit taller than most UKers I've seen.
3) hang around Sheperds Bush/ Action town. Yeah, ghettos suck.
4) Compress your words so that every vowel is distorted, eg Sex shoudl be prononcced as "Six". No funny accents in the UK then...
5)Limit yourself to drinking Steinlager Only all the fuckin time. All lager is shit, whatever its name. Give 'em time. If they can make one of the world's best vodkas there they'll get into real ale soon enough.
6) refuse to go to bars that dont play crowded house fuckin 24/7. Australian band, I think you'll find.![]()
7) go to the church at KingsX on sunday mornings & cop off with short wide girls with fuckin herpes. Looks like you attract the wrong sort of girl, my friend.
8) Refuse to talk about anything that doesnt involve a) what a great place NZ is & b) How great Rugby is. Kiwis are some of the biggest critics of their own country of all people I know. They just don't like to hear it from a non-Kiwi.
9) develop an intense jealousy/ hatred of laid back Australians. Nah, it's just that there isn't the love affair like between the English and Australia.
10) try to spend as much time as you can away from NZ. Yup. When you head 12,000 miles away you don't return too soon.

I read that the murder rate over there is twice the UK. I've not seen that backed up but the NZ papers were full of grisly goings on when I was therePoi E said:5. Feeling of less of a threat of violence on a night out..
Where you gonna land for that money in NZ? I'm sure we can check via t'internet, but off the top if my head I'd have said 100k an acre upwardsPoi E said:£4000 for nice chunk of land aint bad and you start to plan your return.
zoltan69 said:maybe my experience of Kiwi culture is a little bit "twisted".![]()
Spion said:Where you gonna land for that money in NZ? I'm sure we can check via t'internet, but off the top if my head I'd have said 100k an acre upwards
) have to get out beacsue the crippling dullness & orthodoxy of their home country numbs the brain & produces automatons, whereas Australia nurtures originality & embraces the individual.Fruitloop said:I reckon conscription had a fair bit to do with it.
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Idaho said:I have heard that the NZ state has all sorts of quotas and other positive descrimination stuff which is largely used by europeans with one maori great grandfather to get preferential access to college and state jobs. Any truth in that?
Idaho said:I have heard that the NZ state has all sorts of quotas and other positive descrimination stuff which is largely used by europeans with one maori great grandfather to get preferential access to college and state jobs. Any truth in that?
Fruitloop said:It's made sustained attempts to exterminate it, if you want to look at it that way. A quick comparison of race-relations in the two countries gives the lie to the image of all those laid-back aussie individualists and their uptight kiwi cousins, I reckon.
Spion said:Race relations struck me as fairly grim when I was in NZ. The immigration officer who dealt with us off the plane went into a rant about the Chinese trying to take over (there were some behind us in the queue) and the next day in Christchurch city centre we came across the National Front having a little rally in a town square.
I guess like many places people just rub along, but the degree of alienation and in some cases barely concealed hostility from maori was pretty noticeable
No. I don't blame em at allPoi E said:Yeah, you'll get some pissed off Maori, but do you really wonder?
Poi E said:You get the fash, but they're not the organised, European style of fash. It's pretty damn hard to say anyone is a "real Kiwi" because it's very mixed. You don't get the ghettoes of people like you have in the UK with groups living side-by-side but knowing very little about each other.
Spion said:These guys were old style fash - skins. I figured they could get away with that in Christchurch but wouldn't have lasted 2 mins in many other places

Fruitloop said:I was gonna say that a lot of this stuff that would have specific meanings elsewhere (like a skinhead) gets a bit 'lot in translation' in NZ, particularly in more rural areas. I reckon with a lot of people it would be as much a fashion statement or role that they're playing as much as anything else.
A maori skin would be a thing to see though.![]()
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