Congratulations hipsters!
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vornstyle76
Dundela FC, Transpontine Diaspora Brigade
What the TV Go Home stuff did which the Channel 4 series (if I remember correctly) strangely only vaguely hinted at was to emphasise that the Nathan Barley character is incredibly well off and benefits from nepotism. I think it was a bit of an oversight given so many people now seem to think jokingly quoting The Human League, wearing a loud shirt etc. is the primary problem with Barley.
Joe K
no al calcio con orchestra di ukulele
There were bits in the series where you could tell that he was, erm, 'independently wealthy'. He had his own studios despite having no obvious source of income, a (paid or unpaid?) 'employee' in Pingu, and there was an episode where he took Clare Ashcroft to a really expensive restaurant.
You're broadly right, though. Interesting how, as far as TV was concerned, it was somewhat verboten to point out that Barley is a complete parasite. Seems to have been key, then, to disconnecting the hipster narrative from the class one.
sleaterkinney
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I'm surprised le Arse didn't make it on that list, too well-known?
rekil
to menny cranks
Glendenning went to school here btw.
Cistercian College, Roscrea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The 50 or so private schools in Ireland are subsidised by €100 million of public money, used to pay for world class rugby coaches and that, while kids here make do with overcrowded prefabs.
Cistercian College, Roscrea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The 50 or so private schools in Ireland are subsidised by €100 million of public money, used to pay for world class rugby coaches and that, while kids here make do with overcrowded prefabs.
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Joe K
no al calcio con orchestra di ukulele
Are there any remaining copies of OFE or did Taylor Parkes steal them all? I would really like to read it.
Christian Burt
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I did 6.
There's one issue missing from my own collection and I was going to attempt an actual printed set of say 50, if I can locate the missing copy!
Danny King is "having a look in the loft"
There's one issue missing from my own collection and I was going to attempt an actual printed set of say 50, if I can locate the missing copy!
Danny King is "having a look in the loft"
vornstyle76
Dundela FC, Transpontine Diaspora Brigade
If dreary smug people want to mock normal regular folk seeking to make sense of politics, society and culture then they can suck my cock quite frankly, though first of all I'll wrap it up in ripped out pages from The Condition of Postmodernity and The Invention of Tradition AND FUCKING INSTALL IT IN AN ART GALLERY.
PartisanDulwich
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Seriously (well almost)
who would have thought our beloved Dulwich Hamlet FC would be deemed by one of Britain's biggest newspapers to be one the 6 coolest teams in the WHOLE WORLD
Seriously you cannot buy such an accolade - unless you work for FIFA
The Guardian must never do this again - so we remain 6th
Ok its a great laugh - but you wouldn't be getting this attention if we weren't doing something right - Underpinning all the work we do on and off the pitch is the Club's great history - you cannot buy tradition
Living the dream (and having a laugh)
who would have thought our beloved Dulwich Hamlet FC would be deemed by one of Britain's biggest newspapers to be one the 6 coolest teams in the WHOLE WORLD
Seriously you cannot buy such an accolade - unless you work for FIFA
The Guardian must never do this again - so we remain 6th
Ok its a great laugh - but you wouldn't be getting this attention if we weren't doing something right - Underpinning all the work we do on and off the pitch is the Club's great history - you cannot buy tradition
Living the dream (and having a laugh)
EDC
A Slightly Less Invisible Cyber Fan These Days
vornstyle76
Dundela FC, Transpontine Diaspora Brigade
He's also the guy who claimed it was alright for Clarkson to hit that guy cos it's what proper authentic hardworking builders do. He is of course right about working-class work culture - during my 8 years of minimum wage care work I was constantly throwing punches. I was like Mike Tyson. I was effectively working for less than half minimum wage due to the sheer number of tunics I had to replace after ripping them open to reveal my glistening sweaty muscular torso, demanding we settle a disagreement about bedpans "like fucking men!"
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Favelado
I'm loving Engels instead.
There really aren't any hipsters at Rayo. Vallecas is a skint neighbourhood and the club's identity reflects that. Don't reckon you could get away with a banner saying "The Pride of a Working Class Area" in erm Dulwich. The republican flags and left-wing politics are a result of the area's history - that of a place that was key in sending militias to fight against the nationalists in the civil war. You don't get people latching on to its image either, as you do at St. Pauli.
You do get people now who are coming because a season ticket costs 200 euros and you get to Barça and Madrid. Bandwagon-jumping might be going on a bit but you don't see the trendies around town wearing Rayo shirts for kudos.
The straight out banning of ultras in Spain and its resultant effect on the atmosphere at the ground is a serious issue. The potential hipster factor has just taken a kicking. It's normally raucous at Rayo but this season it's quiet as the Bukaneros are on strike and are probably going to lose.
vornstyle76
Dundela FC, Transpontine Diaspora Brigade
Dulwich play pretty much in the middle of Dulwich, Camberwell and Peckham, and much of the nearby housing is council estates, and with just about every corner of Greater London gentrifying you'll find working-class people often aren't so much displaced as entrapped and become poorer through an increased cost of living, particularly via housing.
Favelado
I'm loving Engels instead.
I know and I appreciate what you say. However, I'd say that the average salary in Vallecas as a whole, and it's a very big area, would be about 650 quid a month, to put things in perspective. That might get you a room in a houseshare within a one mile radius of Champion Hill but doubt it would even stretch to a studio. There's not even a London-esque divide here - there's people who are working class and there's people who are flat broke, and zero gentrification. You can buy a flat for 30 grand on some streets. I know South London well and looking at the map there's not just gentrified areas nearby but places that have been expensive for a long time. The difference between the two areas overall is pretty massive.
What's the capacity of Champion Hill? You've had a lot of coverage recently. Is the ground getting pretty stuffed or still space for a few hundred more?
PartisanDulwich
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Well I came to E Dulwich 20 years ago and still large section of working class then
especially large Irish and Afro Caribbean communities
When the kids went to school in East Dulwich over 50% of the kids were Afro-Caribbean or West African
Then my neighbors lived in council or housing association, many teachers or social workers or nurses but busmen as well - most of the houses have been sold by council and housing association
But we were named in the London riots and that was only August 2011
especially large Irish and Afro Caribbean communities
When the kids went to school in East Dulwich over 50% of the kids were Afro-Caribbean or West African
Then my neighbors lived in council or housing association, many teachers or social workers or nurses but busmen as well - most of the houses have been sold by council and housing association
But we were named in the London riots and that was only August 2011
Favelado
I'm loving Engels instead.
I'm just saying that you couldn't reasonably call it a working class area now as you could Salford, Toxteth etc. It might have some working class people there but it's also got a large middle class population and lots of out and out rich people.
Lordship Lane has undergone a lot of change in the past 15 years. I was struck by that last time I visited the area.
Lordship Lane has undergone a lot of change in the past 15 years. I was struck by that last time I visited the area.
PartisanDulwich
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have you seen Salford recently - mass gentrification but agree lots of poverty
Favelado
I'm loving Engels instead.
Okay - Ordsall then - Salford being a city rather than a neighbourhood. Fair enough.
vornstyle76
Dundela FC, Transpontine Diaspora Brigade
Things are never as simple as a high street suggests (and in fact that can make things more stark). Did you know the constituency Champion Hill is in has a higher child poverty rate* (35.8%) than Salford (31%) and only slightly below Toxteth's (37.6%)?
Though I'm not claiming we have the uniformity of Rayo's neighbourhood. Perhaps rather than "pride of a Working-Class Area" we should have a "The Impoverishment of a Gentrified Area" banner.
* = I mean actual child poverty, not the Tories' new measurement of how many disadvantaged children sing Incy Wincy Spider at a Sure Start Centre. The scumbags.
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Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
As a (somewhat relevant) aside, East Dulwich seems to me to be a perfect example of an area that's been thoroughly gentrified without ever being remotely 'hipster'. We all know the model - the artists move in, then the trendy 'creative'/internet types, then the lawyers and accountants, and then sometimes the super rich Qatari oil types. And while places like Shoreditch/Hoxton and more recently Brixton have more or less gone down that line, the lawyers and accountants quietly went about buying up the nice housing stock along Lordship Lane without it ever being particularly fashionable.
I too believe I have all of the copies, but it could be in one of the proverbial 'million and one shoeboxes' in my pit of a flat. Nothing I have is any resemblance of order in my pit of a flat!
Christian Burt
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if you ever do I'd be grateful and you'd get an acknowledgment in pink and blue!I too believe I have all of the copies, but it could be in one of the proverbial 'million and one shoeboxes' in my pit of a flat. Nothing I have is any resemblance of order in my pit of a flat!
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