Congratulations AFC Wimbledon
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London_Calling
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tbf, that's your record because the income is over £1.5 million per annum.Our league record since forming in 2002.
P302, W198, D62, L42, F706, A267, GD+439, Pts 653.
That's why we're champions..
On that basis, how will Wimbledon compete in the Conference? I'd imagine they'll be top half given that there are several teams who get nothing like the gates and income of the Wombles but it's gotta be hard with several ex-League sides in there all capable of drawing decent crowds and sponsorship money etc.
21 years ago, Luton v Wimbledon was an FA Cup semi final, next season it's a Conference fixture. Even allowing for the falls of teams such as Oxford in that time, the circumstances that led to the two sides being where they are are somewhat extraordinary
Donna Ferentes
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And indeed Luton v Oxford was a League Cup semi-final that same season.
London_Calling
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Donna Ferentes
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I think if they're financially healthy they ought to have a very good chance, because God knows none of the ex-League clubs in that division can say the same thing.
Yeah, Mansfield, York, Wrexham & Oxford all seem to be a complete state atm for various reasons but usually involving twatty owners.
I am hopeful that Cambridge and Torquay can both return to the League in the next few weeks
Amazing what can be achieved when a club's run by people who care about it and have a proper stake and say in how it's run. See also Exeter City in the last couple of years
Donna Ferentes
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I'll be amazed if Luton aren't favourites and they really ought to have the strongest side by a distance but AFC should have a chance of reaching the play-offs.
I'm usually sceptical of these type of predictions (see any number of 'big' clubs in the third division and how they've eventually only scraped up) but Luton should win the division by a mile. They'll fill the ground every week, I get the impression there's very much a backs to the wall ethic going on there.
Donna Ferentes
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I think in this instance I'm looking at their gross points total rather than the net...
London_Calling
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As ownership models go it works well when there's plenty of money around. Different types of ownership might see money disappearing in that circumstance.
Speaking as the supporter of a non-league club similarly owned to AFCW but where there's been next to no money . . . it's a different game again.
T & P
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No they didn't. Stop lying. Lying Troll.
The mayor of the depressing shithole that is Milton Keynes is on record as saying MK was the biggest city in Europe (if you can call that concrete cow and roundabout-infested hole a city) without a team in the top flight of the nation's league. So instead of creating a club from scratch and support it to climb up the football pyramid (the traditional way) they stole another club's place in the football league, at the time just below the Premiership. All they needed was an undecent chairmain who was willing to sell his club down the river for a quick buck, and along came a pair of Norwegian investors who had recently bought a South London football club with the sole intention of selling it at a profit at the earliest convenience.
Indeed, MK 'fans' regularly brag to Dons supporters on message boards that they have stolen their club's league place. Which is exactly what they did, marking an all time low in the history of the game and everything it's supposed to represent.
That is why it is no exaggeration to say Franchise FC is the most hated 'football club' in the entire world. And that is why you are either the most fucking clueless football fan in the land, or the least subtle troll.
Either way, kindly fuck off baldwin
https://62.49.58.40/exchweb/bin/red...rt.yahoo.com/football/jim-white/article/7447/
The mayor of the depressing shithole that is Milton Keynes is on record as saying MK was the biggest city in Europe (if you can call that concrete cow and roundabout-infested hole a city) without a team in the top flight of the nation's league. So instead of creating a club from scratch and support it to climb up the football pyramid (the traditional way) they stole another club's place in the football league, at the time just below the Premiership. All they needed was an undecent chairmain who was willing to sell his club down the river for a quick buck, and along came a pair of Norwegian investors who had recently bought a South London football club with the sole intention of selling it at a profit at the earliest convenience.
Indeed, MK 'fans' regularly brag to Dons supporters on message boards that they have stolen their club's league place. Which is exactly what they did, marking an all time low in the history of the game and everything it's supposed to represent.
That is why it is no exaggeration to say Franchise FC is the most hated 'football club' in the entire world. And that is why you are either the most fucking clueless football fan in the land, or the least subtle troll.
Either way, kindly fuck off baldwin
https://62.49.58.40/exchweb/bin/red...rt.yahoo.com/football/jim-white/article/7447/
It's not even the biggest city in England without a top flight team
Ignoring distinctions of city/town/borough etc, Bristol, Dudley and Croydon all spring to mind, as well as Sheffield intermittently and currently (though not at the time) Leeds & Nottingham.
No they didn't. Stop lying. Lying Troll.
Either way, kindly fuck off baldwin
https://62.49.58.40/exchweb/bin/red...rt.yahoo.com/football/jim-white/article/7447/
The Old Wimbledon FC moved out of Wimbledon because the lack of support they got from people there....
And for 10 years they operated as a franchise at Selhurst Park Crystal Palaces ground....
The franchise at Palace saw gates rise steadily because....football had suddenly become quite trendy and hyped up....Many away fans could get in to boost crowd numbers...One season there average crowd actually got above 17,000.....At Wimbledon they got crowds of less than 4,000 for top flight football!!!!!!!!!!!
When the franchise got relegated it looked as though they would go out of business with NO GROUND.VERY FEW SUPPORTERS> AND OVER £20 MILLION worth of debts.....
The only way they could survive was to move.....And they did to MILTON KEYNES......
This meant that a few of their loyal supporters understanably felt betrayed....And london based twat journalists decided after ignoring that this had already happened in Scotland decided this was an injustice.....
AFCW became a trendy club to support not just for old wimbledon fans but some of the neutrals who only started watching them as a franchise at Selhurst and a new breed of trendy football fans.....
AFCW on a tide of goodwill decided to set up and instead of building their own ground they decided to do a deal with a dodgy property speculator to buy another clubs ground....
They are hated and despised as hypocrites by this by fans up and down the country...
Many of these people rightly point out that if people like the property speculator can make so much money out of non league clubs and grounds its no suprise that they will be waiting like vultures to make money...
Oh and Jim White not even David Conn is a bigger wanker than him!!!!
kindofblue
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Baldwin,. you've had several years now to actually educate yourself about what really happened - if you can't, or more likely won't, just f off and stop pontificating about things you know nothing about.
pk
drink flounce rinse repeat
What the fuck are you on about?
The Plough Lane ground was bought up for yuppie housing, as Wimbledon found itself in the largest property boom in the country and it was economically retarded not to sell up, given that the stadium would have needed completely modernising.
All your talk of AFCW being "hated and despised as hypocrites by this by fans up and down the country" is absolute 100% bollocks.
MK Dons are the bad guys here, they shafted Wimbledon fans for a quick buck.
AFCW is the result of hard work and dedication from a grass roots level, something I'd have thought you'd be keen to applaud, but clearly not.
They played at the Kingstonian ground, which was a boggy marsh, and to my knowledge never "stole" a ground from anyone.
I don't believe you know a fucking thing about Wimbledon football and the subsequent 2 clubs nor any of the politics or business surrounding it.
I was watching them play at Plough Lane back in '87 when Vinnie Jones was in midfield and have followed with interest the story of what happened since those days through my own experiences and those of dozens of WFC fans who nowadays follow Palace as well as AFCW.
I think you're full of shit, Baldwin. No - I KNOW you're full of shit.
"Yes, it's true! Everybody hates AFC Wimbledon! And MK Dons is a much-loved club! Trust me on this!"
Look at my post instead of mouthing off why dont you pick on any points you think are untrue.....
Do you know anything about the deal done with Raj Kholsa?
Do you know anything about Kingstonians recent history?
Do you know what level of debt Wimbledon had at Palace?
Do you think they could have just carried on in second tier football at Palace?
Do you know Wimbledons average attendance in their last season at Plough Lane?
Do you know how MK Dons average crowds compare with the old wimbledons when playing at the same level?
There seems to be a huge level of ignorance on this thread.....
Donna Ferentes
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You sad, sad man.
kindofblue
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Errm, that'd be all of it, then.
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