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Conflict vs Crass

To Donna, from Wiki:

"Mass media is a term used to denote, as a class, that section of the media specifically conceived and designed to reach a very large audience (typically at least as large as the whole population of a nation state). It was coined in the 1920s with the advent of nationwide radio networks and of mass-circulation newspapers and magazines."

The fact that it is a music paper covering a band does not mean it is not "mass media".

The fact that the single was debated in Parliament indicates to me that they ruffled a few feathers, as well.

The fact that you're choosing to have this argument indicates to me that you feel, at the very least, ambivalent on the issue.

The fact I've been on here all day means I've done no work so I'm off now :p

And, no I don't know what Conflict are like now RB, chance your arm mate and give us your opinion ;)
 
Paulie Tandoori said:
The fact that it is a music paper covering a band does not mean it is not "mass media".
No. It means it's specialist media. "pop music magazine covers pop group" is not really a sensation I'm afraid. Not a significant fact at all.

Paulie Tandoori said:
The fact that the single was debated in Parliament indicates to me that they ruffled a few feathers, as well.
As I say: in 1982, at the end of our period. Very much a nine-day wonder, albeit several days shorter.

Meanwhile almost every day for years, the papers were running stories lying about Tony Benn.
 
I'm quite prepared to believe you. And that's one of the things about the anarcho-punk fringe: not interested in much outside what they and people like them do. Not surprising then that they have such a high opinion of themselves.
 
Paulie Tandoori said:
That reminds me of my mate who went to a Conflict gig in Penzance wearing a New Model Army t-shirt...he had a most uncomfortable night :D doh!
Ha! yeh the fans are no better!:D Very old school in their "you have to be into this and nothing else" Not a hint of Post Modernism....probably why thay've lasted so long.

However it's all made up by Sarah...she's LUSH!!
 
Paulie Tandoori said:
For eg, RTS arose from a convergence of raving, squatting, single issue politics, DIY spirit, and so on - it wasn't very long before swappies were handing out banners at, for eg, Trafalgar sq 97, and subsequently claiming responsibility for the day, when the reality was that it was very much a coming together of a variety of political strands involved.
Wasn't that the joint Demo with the Lverpool Dockers
:rolleyes:
 
linerider said:
Wasn't that the joint Demo with the Lverpool Dockers
:rolleyes:

Yep, RTS called for a 2 Day Festival of Resistance, coinciding with a March for Social Justice shouting about the dockers along with some other striking workers. One of the best days out I can remember tbh, raving in Trafalgar Sq with my kids on my shoulders. Happy daze :)
 
Donna Ferentes said:
I'm quite prepared to believe you. And that's one of the things about the anarcho-punk fringe: not interested in much outside what they and people like them do. Not surprising then that they have such a high opinion of themselves.

Yep, that's right Donna, all those anarcho-punks, they're all the same aren't they...:rolleyes:

Sometimes (direct) actions speak louder than words.
 
Donna Ferentes said:
I'm quite prepared to believe you. And that's one of the things about the anarcho-punk fringe: not interested in much outside what they and people like them do. Not surprising then that they have such a high opinion of themselves.


sometimes you are such a fucking hypocrite. You'll rail against people generalising on one thread, and then trot out specious bollocks like this on another.
 
Dubversion said:
sometimes you are such a fucking hypocrite. You'll rail against people generalising on one thread, and then trot out specious bollocks like this on another.
You, Dub, need to grow up a little. Stop calling other people "hypocrite" because they don't agree with your opinions. It's aggressive and unnecessary (although it is a substantial improvement on "cunt"). I have a great deal experience of the anarcho-punk people: much of it from the period under discussion, much of the rest of it on here. This entitles me to make some generalisations - against which, I do not believe I have "railed" - provided I am aware that I am doing this and provided I am aware of their limitations.

I've said over and again on this thread that one cannot come to fixed conclusions in areas like this: but I've also said that you can't just take the opinions of a few people of similar viewpoint and say that well, this must be true. I could - as you are well aware - do the same with any other viewpoint, be contradictory to yours or aligned with it or anywhere between the two.
 
northernhoard said:
Crass without a shadow of a doubt, I thought Conflict were more into their hairdos and bullet belts than anything else.
Hairdos and bullet belts sounds more like Dubversion
:D
 
Aye ive been listeing to the live side of "Stations".and yes i agree. Crass cant play live. But then again they were not musicians of any sort.i think the only member that could REALLY play was Pete Wright on Bass. And Penny Rimbaud only really uses one drum. But the thing is. It worked.and the way they spliced Radio peices into the songs was Great. Crass were not supposed to sound Nice.but as said in a above post. I got brought up with That type of music. My brother had Feeding the 5000 and Reality asylum and The Poison Girls Persons Unknown singles. So when ye hear them from when you are about 5 or 6. Ye become Used to it.it becomes Normal.lol
 
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