Condosleezy Rice: International buffoon
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Bang to Rights
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Your incomplete satisfaction is natural. Who can be "fully satisfied"? This is the part that Göbbles understood best: "Repeat the lie often enough and people wil believe it". - America is the leader of the free world, the free world, the free world. The US is the pinnacle of democracy, democracy, democracy. When that finally sinks in what will be your initial response to reports of the dirty deeds Washington has been up to since the end of the Second World War? Disbelief. And if I tell you that you are part of that "free world and democracy" you will not only scoff but stand up with a vengenance to fight against such reports.
I recon there was a very large percentage of Germans who simply could not believe that the Nazi Party actually murdered millions upon millions of innocent men, women and even children in the camps. How could it be possible? Germany (together with its allies) was struggling for the well-being of all Europe (and the world) by ridding it of evil elements sent to destroy it. Wasn't it? It was to that end that Germany was fighting, right?
I understand that you're not fully satisfied. I might say the very same thing except that I've been on the Forums long enough and read what the vast majority of Americans are saying about themselves and about the entire world. Their willingness to believe any amount of American-produced misinformation is astounding.
Simply reading what he's written (here above) ought to give some clue that you're not really reading his posts. If what you say were true then he wouldn't have any doubts about his "favoured" assessment. I think you're being unfair.
I agree, and i've been a vehement talker of political things american for many a year.
But britons don't come out any much better really. And often i think, nor do thais. My point would be that this concept you talk of is not really limited to americans at all, rather it is endemic in humans per se.
It's just that the US are the prime empire and get loads more press than other nations. They get more air-time and therefore they can look worse than others because of this.
But even here on urban, i see plenty of self-delusion going on amongst posters of british origin. To be honest, they're really none much better than americans, except they like to think they are!
Both countries are fucking with the world, and have been doing so for ages.
Repeating the lie does indeed lead to a conversion of the lie into the truth.
In fact, the truth is only what we (the political leaders) say it is.
A quote i once read that sticks in my mind is:
"never believe anything until it's been officially denied"...
But my real interest is why people end up accepting such bullshit, and such criminals to be their leaders. And worse, they vote them back in.
This leads me to suspect that if we want to change our leaders, we first have to change ourselves.
But we don't do that. Probably because it requires too much investment or our time and energies and brain cells. Better just to stick to the system, the bullshit, and the lies. Easier.
If you want to see the 'crowd' in action mate, i suggest you take a peek at the gary glitter threads in general at the moment. It's ugly as fuck man.
Bang to Rights
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I agree with you in the case of Britain although their time is past. Britain (France, Portugal, etc.) were the masters “within our time”. They relied on brute force, for the most part. Then the outcome of WWII showed the colonies that freedom could be had – or “might” be had anyway. So the torch was taken up by the US. They however, incorporated the “new” tool of suppression: Göbbles domestic psychology, and brute force abroad.
I’m not sure I understand what you mean about media coverage and “They get more air time ….. therefore they can look worse than the others …” Airtime (revealing American treachery) is something that “we” get more of – not the US. Their domestic censorship won’t allow much of that to be aired. Unless you mean that more airtime by US representatives naturally allows more viewers more opportunities of seeing them shoot themselves in the foot?!
I don’t see them (Brits) as quite “that” bad, honestly. Generally, there is a balance of free thinkers among them whereas equivalent Yanks seem to be somewhere around 2 percent. But maybe I’m being unfair.
That’d be funny if it weren’t so true.
You already know the answer to that one. The lie: “We are the best in the world!” Note: “We”. If I can convince you that the Irakis are out to destroy “us” then you’ll put on a uniform and go to war. It’s been the same for a long, long time. The Americans who came to fight in Europe (God bless them) came not because they wanted to save us but because they were led to believe that Nazism would eventually invade the US and they were running short on time and able-bodied free allies. The US learned a very important lesson during that war and it was they who carried on the (mostly) contrived threat of communism to further their “empire” (as you call it).
So people “accept such bullshit, and such criminals to be their leaders” because they believe in the perceived threat their leaders have instilled in them. Isn’t it true that we’d rather have an “early” Hitler to lead us through a real crisis? So if leaders create a threat (for us to believe in) then the chances are good we’ll praise them their triumphs.
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