Discussion in 'Dulwich Hamlet FC' started by Blitzwalker, Jan 30, 2019.
No mention of the disallowed goal?
Totally agree. His attitude since getting popped on the transfer list has been superb, as have been his performances. I'd take him off the list now.
I was quite critical of him earlier this season but I think Magnus's return has been pretty significant as well. He's so vocal and we look a lot more confident since he's been back in the side. He can get caught out of position but his leadership skills more than make up for it, IMO.
I see the world with Quade-tinted sunglasses most of the time, but I'm quite happy that he's so fired up. I think for so long, Quade's lack of confidence is what has held him back - which hasn't been helped by the fact that he hasn't had a run in the team in any set position - so I think it's great to see him settling into a position and growing in confidence. It was interesting to see as well that he was the one at the end beckoning the rest of the side to come over to the fans.
I thought Concord had some spells of nice football. They played some glorious cross-field balls in the first half. Shame about some antics.
He's a young journalist called Ricardo Domingos.
I've just uploaded the usual photo report here
Dulwich Hamlet take a well earned point at promotion-chasing Concord Rangers: photos and fan comments, Sat 2nd Feb 2019
He’s alright but Max is the best!
Agree. Max is one of those just hugely likeable blokes!
Green doesn't look offside from this picture from Max
That's what I thought.
I've just watched the highlights on The National League website, and it's scandalous how this goal was disallowed. I have some sympathy for officials when they need to make a decision in open play, when a split second can mean a big difference in terms of players' positions, but there is no excuse from a set-play. I await the decision later in the season to "even this up".
The league website doesn't include Quade's two non-penalties, but I'm sure we will see this on DHTV soon. Initial contact on the first one was just outside the area I think and was probably just about correct to be given as a free kick. However, the body check in the box a few minutes later in front of the referee was completely blatant, and a definite penalty. Again, no excuse for the official.
The DHFCTV boys really do a bloody good job.
Being honest, watçhing the DHTV video it looks like he could have gone a bit early and strayed off. Either way, Im sure not sure either of us can make a fair judgement on it from the angle we are given, really is impossible to be sure.
I agree on the Quade pen decision though, the defender misses the ball completely and impedes his run. Poor mistake from the ref and is frustrating to have such bad luck in so many recent games. We haven't got the results some of our performances have deserved as a result of ref errors.
Im still annoyed by that Dartford 2-1 where neither of their goals should have stood
The disallowed goal looks more offside in the video than in the screen grab, but as CG says the footage isn't conclusive from that angle.
The first penalty shout was also a very tight line call, but how the second one wasn't given I don't know. You can tell it's a deliberate foul by the way their player instantly holds up his hands in that "never touched him ref" gesture, then starts ranting about alleged simulation. You see that every week on Match of the Day, and defenders only do it when they know it's a foul. It was also the same player who was booked for the first foul on Taylor. Then again, as Gavin acknowledged in interview, the Touré challenge on Midson wasn't great, leading with his arm even though he won the ball, and that could easily have left us a man short before half-time.
I think Green was offside
No wonder Midson looked miffed at half time when people were calling him a cheat.
Unfortunately the ridiculous antics of some of his team mates created a "cry wolf" situation when he took a genuine blow.
The fact that all the debatable incidents that went against us came in the final 15 minutes or so fuels the narrative that we deserved the two extra points, but despite the distraction of their tiresome levels of gamesmanship Concord were clearly the stronger side in the first half with Edwards making some vital saves to keep us in the game. A draw was probably what we deserved on balance of play, and penalties aren't always converted.
Maybe he should have a word with several of his teammates and management (which he is part of) about how his team acted in the prior 130 minutes of football between our two sides? A disgrace would be a polite of way describing it...and cry wolf is exactly right Pink Panther ... Zero sympathy. Clearly took a bash in hindsight, but it was on the blind side from us.
His head smashing into the turf was quite clear to see at the time.
Completely agree. Their tactics are about as anti-football as you can get.
No. The impact was on back of his head from Toure's forearm/elbow tucked across his chest. You couldn't see this from behind goal. We "saw" Midson throw himself forward and then their number 11 insinuate it was a headbutt, which it clearly wasn't. This combined with all the other gamesmanship, e.g. their number 6 screaming near us for no reason, was enough for many. I appreciate that you are zen Dunc...more power to you.
It might have been clear through a telephoto lens but it wasn't clear to me from over 50 yards away, although at the time I thought Toure had jumped higher and caught the back of his head in winning the ball.
That's what happens when you put a couple of mediocre ex-pros in charge of a small non-league club and give them a decent budget. They'd probably tell you it's professionalism and you don't understand the game because you've never been a professional. In fact it's people like Moore who don't understand that there wouldn't be professional football if people like us didn't pay to watch it, then they wouldn't have a job, and their cynical win-at-all costs ethos can only drive people away from paying to watch. I certainly wouldn't pick one of their games to watch as a neutral, and I'd think twice about travelling to watch the Hamlet there while he's still in charge.
My view wasn’t much different and I saw his head hit the floor and the arm hit the back of his head. My lens isn’t telephoto. It’s a zoom. From that distance it’s not much different to the naked eye. He didn’t throw himself forward, you said yourself toure’s arm hit him in the back of his head. If anything the second impact is worse.
I’m not saying they weren’t acting like shits
Anyway. I have a general rule of thumb - if it is a head injury I don’t question it. Innocuous stuff can turn out very bad.
Personally I'm happy to acknowledge Toure won the ball with a reckless challenge and could easily have been shown a second yellow card, as our own manager acknowledged in the post-match interview.
There was that incident at Whitehawk in the Trophy a couple of years ago when their keeper appeared to make a meal of a challenge, then clearly had a lump the size of an egg on the side of his head. The worst injuries often result from the most innocuous situations.
It was that one that made me think that
God, I remember that. The poor sod tweeted a photo of it the next day.
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