Compulsory ID Card one step closer

[dormouse]

"Anyone renewing or applying for a passport will be added to a national identity register but will not have to have a card until January 2010. "

Mother fuckers! It's the bloody database which is the problem not whether you phsyically have a peice of plastic!

Exactly. And you can't avoid/delay it by applying for a passport before 2010 either.

And what's this all about?

David Davis, the shadow home secretary, said the deal was "just about good enough. "Essentially no one who does not want to have an ID card before the next election will have to have one. It's a major climbdown."

Eh? They've got exactly what they wanted.

(from here )

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

To use someone else's biometric ID however you need to change your eyes, thumbs and facial shape - ie very unlikely.

erm irises and figner prints evolve over time indeed could essentially render you not complient with your own detials...

 

[detective-boy]

erm irises and figner prints evolve over time indeed could essentially render you not complient with your own detials...

Dunno for sure about irises ... but fingerprints definitely do NOT evolve over time (other than in relation to size whilst you are growing). The only thing which may make a difference is a serious injury (cut, etc.). This has a temporary effect on the ridge pattern whilst healing and, in some serious cases where a permanent scar is left, disrupts (rather than changes) the pattern permanently.

 

[eyes&Ears]

Not sure what to make of them. It sounds like a good idea but as usual it will cost a fortune, be abused and fail. Or am i being cynical?

 

[ska invita]

Did anyone notice the outrageous introduction of biometrics into schools? Nor did the parents.

Check these two pieces out:

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/06/342355.html
and
http://technology.guardian.co.uk/weekly/story/0,,1742091,00.html

Conditioning the young, thats what it is - soft target. It seems obvious to me that Tony Blair is privy to the plans made at international levels to create a global biometric network - his crony John Reid gave it away a few weeks back on Newsnight "The US are going to do it so we have to too" he pronounced.

 

[goneforlunch]

"The global human rights watchdog Privacy International (PI) has warned that tens of thousands of UK school children are being finger printed by schools, often without the knowledge or consent of their parents."

"As many as 200,000 primary and high school children from the age of seven have already been finger printed. The vendor estimates that at least 350 users have installed the system, including Kenton School, Queens Park County Primary School, St Annes (Stanley) CE School, Fryern Junior School, St Leonards RC Comprehensive School and Radyr Comprehensive School."

This information is 4 years old and hardly rates a murmer in the media.

http://www.privacyinternational.org/countries/uk/kidsprint/fingerprint-release-702.html

 

[Jonti]

How would someone use a false ID if they were not on the database?

You have to have an entry on the database to be able to use the ID.

Whatever gave you that idea*, you are quite wrong.

You don't need Tony and his cronies to build a centralised database on all of us just to be able to enjoy the benefits of a secure, tamper proof form of ID.


* that the centralised database is necessary for secure ID cards

 

[Jonti]

I would be interested in knowing ways in which a biometric system could be evaded and how people would go about creating multiple identities and false identities in a system using biometrics.

Biometrics only tell you that the person holding the card has their biometrics on the card (or a related centralised database entry). That's all. Nothing else. Nothing else at all. Nothing.