Complete the following sequence: Elvis, Beatles, Pistols, Roses...
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George Formby.
littlebabyjesus
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The Beverley Sisters.
AverageJoe
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eh?
Blurs debut (Leisure) was in 1991.
Britpop was 1992-1995. Blur released Modern Life is Rubbish and Parklife in this time.
Oasis released Definitely Maybe in 1994.
So, and its just my opinion, Blur influenced a lot more people who were involved in the Indie years. And were a lot more varied and reinventive in their output.
littlebabyjesus
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I'd say that there was a huge shift from the late 60s to the mid 70s, and nothing to do with the Beatles. Velvet Underground, Iggy Pop and the Stooges, MC5, Can, Bowie, Soft Machine, and loads others, even dare I say it Pink Floyd, really pushed the boundaries of sound.
You do realise Indie was around a long time before 1991?
And tha Blur were shameless Madchester bandwagon jumpers at that time?
littlebabyjesus
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I would agree with this. Oasis made one great album and that's it.
AverageJoe
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If its 1975-1985 then the only bands that would have created the numbers, the spectacle and the column inches were Abba, and rather sadly, John Michelle Jarre
butchersapron
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wtf do you think the indie years were? Seymour?
butchersapron
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If its 1975-1985 then the only bands that would have created the numbers, the spectacle and the column inches were Abba, and rather sadly, John Michelle Jarre
Popular doesn't change pardigms.
AverageJoe
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Ooh - look at you with your knowledge of 'band names before they were famous;, I dont think Seymour found real fame and influenced other bands to form until they became Blur. And sadly (or maybe rightly) popularism *is* exactly what causes paradign shifts in music, as people here it and want to form bands off the back of it.
I think AverageJoe has put his finger on it. How about this - all our subsequent contenders certainly owe a debt to Elvis and the Beatles, it's hard to imagine the Ramones if Bowie hadn't brought performance art to the table, the Pistols stole from the Ramones and Nirvana from the Pistols... So can make a linear connection between Elvis, Beatles, Bowie, Ramones, Pistols, Nirvana and if so who's next?
Sabbath, Zep and Blur are all good shouts btw.
Sabbath, Zep and Blur are all good shouts btw.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
For Indy-type music, I'd say the Pixies. I hadn't heard anything like them before.
I can't quite forgive Nirvana for the legions of awful US bands they inspired.
I can't quite forgive Nirvana for the legions of awful US bands they inspired.
butchersapron
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They didn't change anything in popular culture. That's what this is about isn't it?
littlebabyjesus
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Really? If we were making a list of band that most influenced bands that came after them, there'd be quite a few that were very unsuccessful commercially in their time – Velvets, Kraftwerk to an extent, Joy Division.
butchersapron
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FFS can people just go and look up what Paradigm Shift actually means?
Exactly, there's been one, Last century/
'The Indie Years'...?
-Is this thread part of some kind of cultural exchange programme with the Q Magazine forums?
AverageJoe
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For musical chops and integrity then yes, the pixies. But for making waves and inspiring other bands to do loud/quiet guitars, then it has to be, whether you like it or not, Nirvana.
littlebabyjesus
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I think Nirvana were great. It's the execrable shite they 'inspired' I have a problem with. Essentially, I would probably agree.
AverageJoe
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'The Indie Years'...?
-Is this thread part of some kind of cultural exchange programme with the Q Magazine forums?
I've never really got involved in a big thread before
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Billie Holliday, surely.
FFS can people just go and look up what Paradigm Shift actually means?
I know what it means!
Tony Iommi helped revolutionise the sound of the guitar cos he had to relearn how to play guitar after the tips of his fingers got cut off in a factory accident. Thus creating a heavier electric guitar sound. 
littlebabyjesus
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I know what it means!
Who? Did what now?
I do think you have a point btw.
AverageJoe
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Agreed. But its about totally reshaping what happened before, and whilst all these bands did so, they didnt do it to the extent that other bands at the time did. There are so many bands that all these are *very* close 2nd places, but when faced with choosing just one band to define someone who created a musical shift in direction in a 10 year period, *meeeeeeeeeeeh* its hard innit!
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