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Commute Ranting Thread

Got an N279 or something from camden to holloway recently and two women started having a proper slanging match over whether the window was open or not. Turns out they both have flu, one is fat and the bus isn't a democracy. It seemed to be solved by alternating having the window opened and then closed repeatedly. :D
 
The buses where I live are NOTORIOUS for rows about the windows.
People will come along to your seat, lean over you and literaly slam them shut without saying anything.
 
I must admit I was a bad commuter today too, my defence is it wasn't a route I normally use. Just before the station where everyone gets off there is a teensy tiny request stop that no one ever uses. I''d forgotten it was there so I pressed the bell thinking by mistake thinking it was for the next stop.

So the chockers bus had to pull over, stop and open all the doors and then rer-start again. Fellow passengers weren't too chuffed. :o
 
detective-boy said:
ACAB twats who stereotype police officers and who have not got the faintest fucking idea what the job is all about.
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keeping the queen's peace and enforcing the law, isn't it?
 
Mine was ok today actually....

TFL claim that the commute should take 45-48 minutes door to door
It usually takes me 60 - 70 minutes
 
Isambard said:
Pity how Urban75 changed into a we love coppers boards :(
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Not so much 'we love coppers' but maybe some people have grown up and seen that the alternative to a consensual police force is cowering in fear of those violent scum who have no respect for others. I used to be an ACAB type with very good reason but changed somewhat over the years as I've developed a sense of perspective.
 
KJ, I don't want to go into the police argument again on here, I'm trying to drop it.
The fact is that significant number of people who continue to hold hostile attudes towards the police no longer post here.

Anyway, as I got on this morning plain clothes ticket inspectors were hauling some bloke off the train.
He claimed he'd got confused and bought the wrong ticket or he'd over ridden or something.

What was interesting was that one of the inspectors siad the bloke's foreign name in a derogatory way to a colleague.
Seemed they had lists of repeat offender upon which they'd call the police?

Couple of eye candy student types in shorts but nothing too special.
 
Isambard said:
How the hell do I know what they were briefed or the reports afterwards?

....

They are invariably either stopping and searching a teenager for even the tiniest bit of hash or they are hassling people who look "foreign".
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So you don't know what they're doing, but you, er, do know what they're doing. Make your mind up! Or, alternatively, admit to yourself that you are talking bollocks.
 
Auberon said:
keeping the queen's peace and enforcing the law, isn't it?
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Who said it wasn't? But apparently it has to be done without speaking to anyone or carrying out any stop or search or anything else nasty within the sight of Isambard....
 
Isambard said:
Anyway, as I got on this morning plain clothes ticket inspectors were hauling some bloke off the train.
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And that has precisely what to do with the police? Or do you simply blame them for everything, from the post being late to global warming ... :rolleyes:
 
Funily enough I can OBSERVE, WATCH, WITNESS (you get these concepts ?) as police officers search the bags, pockets and wallets of (mostly) teenage boys at the busy station where I interchange on my daily commute.

Funily enough I can OBSERVE, WATCH, WITNESS (you get these concepts ?) as police officers take ID from "foreigners" and radio it in to a database to check the legal status of people they have stopped on sus in stations on my commute.

Today I OBSERVED, WATCHED, WITNESSED (you get these concepts?) as plain clothed tickets inspectors checked the name of the ticketless individual (coupled with racist / xenophobic comment) on their database. I ASSUME if he had been a repeat offender they would have called the police, rather than just issuing a fixed penalty.
 
Isambard said:
Funily enough I can OBSERVE, WATCH, WITNESS (you get these concepts ?) as police officers search the bags, pockets and wallets of (mostly) teenage boys at the busy station where I interchange on my daily commute.

Funily enough I can OBSERVE, WATCH, WITNESS (you get these concepts ?) as police officers take ID from "foreigners" and radio it in to a database to check the legal status of people they have stopped on sus in stations on my commute.

Today I OBSERVED, WATCHED, WITNESSED (you get these concepts?) as plain clothed tickets inspectors checked the name of the ticketless individual (coupled with racist / xenophobic comment) on their database. I ASSUME if he had been a repeat offender they would have called the police, rather than just issuing a fixed penalty.
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So EVERYTHING you see is the police acting unlawfully then is it? Harassing "teenage boys" and "foreigners". Acting on "sus".

You cannot, and do not, know that. All you can describe is what you saw. You have not got the faintest fucking idea WHY it was being done and whether it was lawful or not.

So why (apart from your prejudice) do you claim that you do?
 
People often react to you well if you approach them in a decent way.

If a person unknown to me approaches me in an aggresive, rude or belligerent manner then I will change the way I react to them.

I am sure that these angelic young gentlemen that Isambard feels are being harrassed were all displaying goodness and purity coupled with respect for the other people who share these public spaces.

Naturally this leads me to believe that the police are all evil and I will be relocating to the Galápagos Islands
 
What does the legal status of what I have witnessed the police were doing have to do with the price of eggs? The law isn't neutral.



Bit of an annoying situation on the tube home yesterday. An elderly lady got on and was offered seats, indeed there were one or two seats free anyway, if not the priority ones. She declined to sit down but then spent the journey grimacing, letting us all know how how difficult it was for her to stand. :mad:
 
Isambard said:
What does the legal status of what I have witnessed the police were doing have to do with the price of eggs?
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It has EVERYTHING to do with what you posted, seeing as you stated that they were being "harassed", i.e. they were being troubled when they should not have been troubled. That can only be the case if there were no legal grounds for stopping / speaking to / searching them. So YOU brought the legal status of what was happening into play.

Do you now accept that you have actually got no idea whether or not they were being dealt with lawfully or "harassed" unlawfully?
 
Whether the interaction between the police and these individuals that I have witnessed was "lawful" or not has what do with my description of this interaction as harrasment? You are assuming "the law" is neutral and/or that all people regard "the law" as legitimate.
 
The law is subject to change as society and values change
Some people need to enforce it

Are you tough enough to survive without the police?
 
I've made comments about the police activity I see on my daily commute and I stand by them.
I don't really want to get involved in a GENERAL disucssion about the police on Urban75.
 
I was stopped and searched a while ago.
It was done quickly and I had a laugh with the copper

I am also aware that some other people have bad experiences as well.


We all struggle to co-exist on this planet and whilst many people are not fans of the police they are needed so why not try to inspire change through the olive branch rather than the sword?
 
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We had to drive through a large part of Nottingham today instead of going down the M1. It took at least 10 minutes longer!
 
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